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‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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> On the desktop, Brave provides a 40% to 60% speed increase, and a 2x to 4x speed increase on mobile devices. Mobile users see a direct reduction in both battery and data plan consumption. Brave also protects users with privacy and security features such as HTTPS Everywhere to encrypt data traffic, fingerprinting shields, phishing protection, malware filtering, and script blocking. Maybe this is a good enough argume…

It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. As far as I can tell the only reason investors threw $7M at them is because Brendan Eich is involved.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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So with that Brave, BitGo and Coinbase get to know it all? Or do I have a new pseudonym per site? How does this prevent all my transactions being known to the parties involved or even the whole world?

You should read their literature on this, it's some kind of zero knowledge thing.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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Last time I looked at Brave, it was replacing some served ads with its own ads. I do not think that's ok.

I think that's very much ok. At least someone is paying attention to the ads, and curating them so they're not the same awful ads we've been getting. If the current browsers cared anything about our viewing experience we would never get kicked into the app store, or bombarded by some autoplay video, but we do and it's not stopping. Bring on Brave.

It's not their site, and it's not their content. It is not ok, not in the least.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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Last time I looked at Brave, it was replacing some served ads with its own ads. I do not think that's ok.

And I think a site's ToS could potentially forbid this and thus provide an avenue to sue either you, Brave or both.

Aside from that, I don't think the "my device, my choice" adblock arguments go here. I think it's pretty obviously immoral.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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post #11
post #2

> On the desktop, Brave provides a 40% to 60% speed increase, and a 2x to 4x speed increase on mobile devices. Mobile users see a direct reduction in both battery and data plan consumption. Brave also protects users with privacy and security features such as HTTPS Everywhere to encrypt data traffic, fingerprinting shields, phishing protection, malware filtering, and script blocking. Maybe this is a good enough argume…

It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. As far as I can tell the only reason investors threw $7M at them is because Brendan Eich…

Disabling javascript takes it one step further.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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post #11
post #2

> On the desktop, Brave provides a 40% to 60% speed increase, and a 2x to 4x speed increase on mobile devices. Mobile users see a direct reduction in both battery and data plan consumption. Brave also protects users with privacy and security features such as HTTPS Everywhere to encrypt data traffic, fingerprinting shields, phishing protection, malware filtering, and script blocking. Maybe this is a good enough argume…

It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. As far as I can tell the only reason investors threw $7M at them is because Brendan Eich…

I don't see how there is any honesty in watching ads. You seem to be implying that I, as an Internet user, have agreed to view ads in return for content and that I'm being dishonest by not viewing the ads.

I believe the reverse is true. Content providers promise content via hyperlinked text instead they dishonestly deliver content plus ads, something I did not agree to.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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Last time I looked at Brave, it was replacing some served ads with its own ads. I do not think that's ok.

And I think a site's ToS could potentially forbid this and thus provide an avenue to sue either you, Brave or both. Aside from that, I don't think the "my device, my choice" adblock arguments go here. I think it's pretty obviously immoral.

You mean unethical.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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post #15
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. As far as I can tell the only reason investors threw $7M at them is because Brendan Eich…

Disabling javascript takes it one step further.

Which breaks HTTP DELETE since HTML5 doesn't have support for it..

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's very much ok. At least someone is paying attention to the ads, and curating them so they're not the same awful ads we've been getting. If the current browsers cared anything about our viewing experience we would never get kicked into the app store, or bombarded by some autoplay video, but we do and it's not stopping. Bring on Brave.

It's not their site, and it's not their content. It is not ok, not in the least.

It's the not the site owner's browser, so it's fine.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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post #6
post #2

> On the desktop, Brave provides a 40% to 60% speed increase, and a 2x to 4x speed increase on mobile devices. Mobile users see a direct reduction in both battery and data plan consumption. Brave also protects users with privacy and security features such as HTTPS Everywhere to encrypt data traffic, fingerprinting shields, phishing protection, malware filtering, and script blocking. Maybe this is a good enough argume…

Also, "Brave provides a 40% to 60% speed increase" compared to WHAT? They may even be comparing it with Internet Explorer 6 for all we know.

Compared to the same browser with tracking enabled. https://brave.com/#faster
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