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The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Engineering in the ancient world has quite a few examples of "megaprojects" like this one. Besides the well-known Egyptian Pyramids and Roman aqueducts, one interesting one I've recently learned about was about the columns in the Roman Pantheon were built: They were carved from single blocks of granite and then imported all the way from Egypt[0]: " The grey granite columns that were actually used in the Pantheon's pr…

Saw the Pantheon in May and it is very impressive the columns are massive. The inside is equally impressive. It's one of the only, if not the only Roman temple where the interior survived. So much of the Ancient world impresses me the more I learn. Seeing it amazes me more. It's sad a lot of Ancient buildings or knowledge was destroyed as the next ruling party or ideology came to power.

Just, saying, the Parthenon is not a Roman temple :)

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Saw the Pantheon in May and it is very impressive the columns are massive. The inside is equally impressive. It's one of the only, if not the only Roman temple where the interior survived. So much of the Ancient world impresses me the more I learn. Seeing it amazes me more. It's sad a lot of Ancient buildings or knowledge was destroyed as the next ruling party or ideology came to power.

Just, saying, the Parthenon is not a Roman temple :)

Yeah, the Parthenon is Greek, but the Pantheon, under discussion here, is Roman.

Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Engineering in the ancient world has quite a few examples of "megaprojects" like this one. Besides the well-known Egyptian Pyramids and Roman aqueducts, one interesting one I've recently learned about was about the columns in the Roman Pantheon were built: They were carved from single blocks of granite and then imported all the way from Egypt[0]: " The grey granite columns that were actually used in the Pantheon's pr…

...and someone probably got the order wrong as the columns are too short. In the following picture we can see how tall the portico roof was expected to be and where it ended up: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3496/3213951635_d21d3e5556_z.j...

Probably some metric conversion error

Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Engineering in the ancient world has quite a few examples of "megaprojects" like this one. Besides the well-known Egyptian Pyramids and Roman aqueducts, one interesting one I've recently learned about was about the columns in the Roman Pantheon were built: They were carved from single blocks of granite and then imported all the way from Egypt[0]: " The grey granite columns that were actually used in the Pantheon's pr…

Ancient Perisans had a few mega projects as well. Persepolis is fairly well known, the Qanat water system [1] that conveyed water from the Alborz mountain range [2] to nearly the edge of Persian Gult is a bit better known. But the first attempt at a Suez Canal [3] is even news to most Iranians.

[1]: http://patentpending.blogs.com/patent_pending_blog/2005/02/a...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alborz

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_of_the_Pharaohs

Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Saw the Pantheon in May and it is very impressive the columns are massive. The inside is equally impressive. It's one of the only, if not the only Roman temple where the interior survived. So much of the Ancient world impresses me the more I learn. Seeing it amazes me more. It's sad a lot of Ancient buildings or knowledge was destroyed as the next ruling party or ideology came to power.

Just, saying, the Parthenon is not a Roman temple :)

Pantheon is in Rome and is a Roman Temple. Just sayin, saw it with my own eyes. Never been to Greece.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheon,_Rome

https://m.imgur.com/a/cFOq7

Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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Saw the Pantheon in May and it is very impressive the columns are massive. The inside is equally impressive. It's one of the only, if not the only Roman temple where the interior survived. So much of the Ancient world impresses me the more I learn. Seeing it amazes me more. It's sad a lot of Ancient buildings or knowledge was destroyed as the next ruling party or ideology came to power.

The interior didn't survive unscathed. The design of the upper walls was "fixed" during the renaissance, with one small section now restored to something more like its original design (based on paintings of the original, see top right of photo): https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/9fd064fa-8fb9-409b-ac... Additionally, Pope Urban VIII had the bronze ceiling of the portico melted down to make cannons in the 1600's.…

Of course nothing survived unscathed but if I recall correctly the Pantheon's marble interior/floor is still mostly original.

The Catholic Popes melted down anything they could find to create Christian things.

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The interior didn't survive unscathed. The design of the upper walls was "fixed" during the renaissance, with one small section now restored to something more like its original design (based on paintings of the original, see top right of photo): https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/9fd064fa-8fb9-409b-ac... Additionally, Pope Urban VIII had the bronze ceiling of the portico melted down to make cannons in the 1600's.…

Of course nothing survived unscathed but if I recall correctly the Pantheon's marble interior/floor is still mostly original. The Catholic Popes melted down anything they could find to create Christian things.

As the saying goes, "What the barbarians did not do the Barberinis did"

(in reference to Pope Urban VIII's family name, Barberini)

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A really great movie. That was the movie that got me interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Herzog . He is one of my favorite directors now. I like his documentaries, and feature films. He has a distinctive style, and a great passion, which often comes through the documentaries where he interacts with the characters.

He's coming out with a new movie about isolation in the digital age. I am very excited to see it.

Thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

Re: The Diolkos: an ancient Greek paved trackway enabling boats to be moved overland

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"remaining in regular and frequent service for at least 650 years" Amazing how long-lived many antique structures were. Apart from churches, I can't think of many 650 year old structures that are still used today.

Look in places where the city centre is more than 650 years old, hasn't been carpet bombed in WW2 and wasn't popular enough to be replaced by modern concrete or glass&steel highrises. You will find hundreds if not thousands of towns in Europe with whole streets full of 13th/14th century timber frame/fachwerk houses in the city centre. There are also dozens if not hundreds of 12th/13th/14th century stone bridges still…

I think you're underestimating the aesthetic value of older structures. Quaintness, nostalgia and historic significance are all slightly cheap-sounding reasons, whereas the value of artifacts/structures as aesthetic production is impossible to dismiss.
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