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Dark Patterns are designed to confuse and enroll

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Re: Dark Patterns are designed to confuse and enroll

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I have yet to work out whether "limited hours for an automated system" is a dark pattern, or sheer stupidity. The most horrifying variant I've seen recently was a government website that kept 9am-5pm hours. No human interaction or real-time events anywhere, but logins were locked after business hours. I'm guessing they didn't want to arrange special downtime periods for changes, and the only alternative they could th…

> ...a government website that kept 9am-5pm hours... Sometimes this is done because the "opening times" are baked into existing process, (or in some cases, legislation), and so the digital replacement for the old meat-and-paper process must be subject to the same seemingly crazy time restrictions. It seems mad, but if you're an underfunded branch of the state, trying to replace a paper-based process with a website, o…

This actually makes a lot of sense. You do 8 hours of business every day no matter what the medium is, satisfy your legal requirements, and say that everyone gets an equal chance in person or online. Then you run your hideous 12 hours of cron processing to clean up the day's mess.

"Makes sense" does not mean "good", but I do understand the madness a little better now...

Re: Dark Patterns are designed to confuse and enroll

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post #161

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B&H Photo Video famously won't accept online orders on Shabbat (in the time zone of the business in New York). Not just not fulfil the orders then, but not allow users to place them, either. I don't know how they decided to use only the time zone of the company and not the time zone of the person placing the order, and indeed where they see the desecration(s) of the sabbath as occurring if they didn't enforce this po…

I thought it was because their NY office is closed and nobody would be there to maintain systems or assist in the event of any screwups. But then again, that was just an assumption so I may be way off base.

If you're interested, B&H actually commented on on this thread.

Looks like the Sabbath violation would be on their end, when they take money for a service, so the problem only arises when during their local Sabbath hours.

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