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The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by scatters »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #107
duaneb wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only people I know who don't use headphones are both teenagers and reviled by the people around them. If what you claim is the case, public transport would be a wasteland of pop music and clash of clans sound effects. I highly suspect your friends aren't representative in the least of the general population.

I use the phone's internal speakers to play music in the car. I would use the audio jack for that, except that cars no longer seem to come with any way of accepting an audio cable. My car from 2002 had a tape player, and I was happy using an audio cable with a casette tape adapter on the other end. A car from 2015 just can't do it. :( I also use the phone's internal speakers for playing the notification sound. (And,…

Doesn't your car have Bluetooth? Or rather: how old does a car have to be before it doesn't come with Bluetooth as standard? Every rental I've had in the last five years has had Bluetooth to my recollection, and I don't hire expensive cars.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by thaumasiotes »

scatters wrote: post #111
thaumasiotes wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the phone's internal speakers to play music in the car. I would use the audio jack for that, except that cars no longer seem to come with any way of accepting an audio cable. My car from 2002 had a tape player, and I was happy using an audio cable with a casette tape adapter on the other end. A car from 2015 just can't do it. :( I also use the phone's internal speakers for playing the notification sound. (And,…

Doesn't your car have Bluetooth? Or rather: how old does a car have to be before it doesn't come with Bluetooth as standard? Every rental I've had in the last five years has had Bluetooth to my recollection, and I don't hire expensive cars.

As pointed out elsewhere in the thread, bluetooth is not a good solution when you want to use one speaker (the car) with several devices. The beauty of a cable is that it's unambiguously connected to whatever it's plugged in to, and not to anything else.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by lmm »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #112
scatters wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't your car have Bluetooth? Or rather: how old does a car have to be before it doesn't come with Bluetooth as standard? Every rental I've had in the last five years has had Bluetooth to my recollection, and I don't hire expensive cars.

As pointed out elsewhere in the thread, bluetooth is not a good solution when you want to use one speaker (the car) with several devices. The beauty of a cable is that it's unambiguously connected to whatever it's plugged in to, and not to anything else.

Huh? How is it harder to disconnect a phone on bluetooth than to unplug a cable?

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by lmm »

jeffbush wrote: post #83

While working on mobile phones, I've found a number of problems with the TRS style jack. One is they trap lint internally, which can often result in the internal switch that detects insertion permanently thinking there is a headphone in it (Google "phone thinks headphones are in"). The external speaker is usually muted when a jack is inserted, so when this happens, the phone doesn't make any sounds. Lint is very diff…

The inline remote on on my galaxy's wired headphones lets me double tap to skip forward, triple tap to skip back.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by ygra »

lmm wrote: post #114
thaumasiotes wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As pointed out elsewhere in the thread, bluetooth is not a good solution when you want to use one speaker (the car) with several devices. The beauty of a cable is that it's unambiguously connected to whatever it's plugged in to, and not to anything else.

Huh? How is it harder to disconnect a phone on bluetooth than to unplug a cable?

I recently had the joy of having to delete a paired device in a car before I could add a new one. For some reason you could only have three devices paired.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by kagamine »

kristopolous wrote: post #105

In 1997 they had a proprietary Apple plaintak 3.5mm connector that was longer. In 2009 they moved controls from the shuffle to the headphone to force their thing again. And this is just on one plug. They are the company of proprietary hardware and this is how they play.

that gen of Shuffle was a disaster and then they redesigned the little square one to make it better. Imo the Shuffle as it is now is one of the best devices ever designed.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by dredmorbius »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #107
duaneb wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only people I know who don't use headphones are both teenagers and reviled by the people around them. If what you claim is the case, public transport would be a wasteland of pop music and clash of clans sound effects. I highly suspect your friends aren't representative in the least of the general population.

I use the phone's internal speakers to play music in the car. I would use the audio jack for that, except that cars no longer seem to come with any way of accepting an audio cable. My car from 2002 had a tape player, and I was happy using an audio cable with a casette tape adapter on the other end. A car from 2015 just can't do it. :( I also use the phone's internal speakers for playing the notification sound. (And,…

Micro FM transmitters. Plug into the 3.5mm jack, power from the cigarette / accessory adapter. Usually a choice of frequencies to broadcast on which can be picked up over your car's FM receiver.

Quite frequently found at highway truck stops, though almost certainly other electronics stores as well.

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by ricksplat »

crishoj wrote: post #55
entee wrote: post #11

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They ship the phones with a small adapter that goes from micro USB to lightning. You're allowed a proprietary port into the phone as long as you provide the adapter for free.

They do? Not in Denmark.

I've never seen this ... I thought it was just the case that they paid whatever fine it was ...

Re: The 19th Century plug that's still being used

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Post by dredmorbius »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #108
nalllar wrote: post #26

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and usually introducing quite a bit of latency

Assuming you want to listen to music, latency really doesn't matter much.

I mean, nobody would ever want to use a phone to talk to someone, amirite?
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