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Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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What language/framework do you use? Not every technology has the same kind of job market attached to it.

University focused on Java. I mainly use C# with some interest in PHP (personal project), F# (went to several meetups and a workshop), and JavaScript.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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From your comment, it looks like you are hustling but haven't seen the results yet. Please do not give up and keep hustling.

Few notes:

1. Do you know about Ramit Sethi? He has tons of free material on finding a job. I would highly recommend that you go through it.

2. How systematic are you about your interviews? Do you have a log of all interviews and questions which you have been asked? I strongly believe that interviewing is a skill by itself. You need to work on it. When I was trying to break in to finance industry, I gave more than 40+ interviews before I could catch a break.

3. I have helped quite a few friends in their job search and all of them ended up in a better place. Though I have never had a chance to work with someone who is a fresh graduate. I live and work in NYC. Please contact me (details in my profile) and I will try my best to help you out.

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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What language/framework do you use? Not every technology has the same kind of job market attached to it.

University focused on Java. I mainly use C# with some interest in PHP (personal project), F# (went to several meetups and a workshop), and JavaScript.

Well you should be fine. Don't get discouraged that you have to start off with low pay. Everybody has to start somewhere.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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From your comment, it looks like you are hustling but haven't seen the results yet. Please do not give up and keep hustling. Few notes: 1. Do you know about Ramit Sethi? He has tons of free material on finding a job. I would highly recommend that you go through it. 2. How systematic are you about your interviews? Do you have a log of all interviews and questions which you have been asked? I strongly believe that inte…

1. Never heard of him before now.

2. Not systematic at all.

3. I'll consider it.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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I dont think a CS degree from a non-high-end school moves your career very far unless you want to work for the gov (have you given that a shot?).

So think of yourself as a person whos built a couple of websites. An internship would be a huge step up.

Think about what kind of technologies you want to work in. Do you want to do web dev? You should probably learn a popular mvc framework (laravel, rails, django, Etc)

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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If anyone reads this, I have an update. I ran an in-person mock interview with an HN user. It wasn't anything extensive; just a few simple questions. After it, I really looked at what I've been doing. It made me realize that I'm shit at interviews. Maybe I'm not that bad. Maybe other people do worse and still get jobs. But honestly, there's so much I can improve. I have no idea how I even passed some of my past interviews.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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I dont think a CS degree from a non-high-end school moves your career very far unless you want to work for the gov (have you given that a shot?). So think of yourself as a person whos built a couple of websites. An internship would be a huge step up. Think about what kind of technologies you want to work in. Do you want to do web dev? You should probably learn a popular mvc framework (laravel, rails, django, Etc)

"I dont think a CS degree from a non-high-end school moves your career very far unless you want to work for the gov "

Most people from my school go work for defense contractors, then move up from there. I've only seen one person in LinkedIn work at Amazon. Nothing Google nor Facebook.

"have you given that a shot?"

I tried with the help of the CS department's chairperson, but I never made it past the resume filter. I don't think my low GPA qualifies for anything gov related.

"An internship would be a huge step up."

Sure. Unfortunately, I've had one unpaid internship, and was offered two more unpaid internships (what a joke). The closest to a paid internship I know of getting would be launchcode.com.

"Think about what kind of technologies you want to work in."

I decided on .NET; mainly C# for now. I don't really care whether it's web dev or something else. I'm familiar with ASP.NET MVC.

Re: Ask HN: What happens to people who graduate and can't find an entry job?

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If anyone reads this, I have an update. I ran an in-person mock interview with an HN user. It wasn't anything extensive; just a few simple questions. After it, I really looked at what I've been doing. It made me realize that I'm shit at interviews. Maybe I'm not that bad. Maybe other people do worse and still get jobs. But honestly, there's so much I can improve. I have no idea how I even passed some of my past inter…

The good news is that's fairly easy to fix! When I graduated college, I failed my first twelve interviews before making a serious effort to get better. The main thing that helped was actually just practicing in front of a mirror–taking common questions and watching my body language while I did. I immediately noticed several problems–e.g., I never smiled–and with a few days' practice, was then able to pass all the interviews I had afterwards.
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