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Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by DanielDent »

ensignavenger wrote: post #18
DanielDent wrote: post #7

I bought Veertu through the Mac app store on an early 2009 MacBook Pro. The CPU instructions used for native virtualization are not enabled on the machine. Despite not being compatible with the machine on which I was purchasing, and despite not having documentation on the app store purchase page about the limitations, it let me buy the app - which refused to function. When I requested a refund - after trying multiple…

A dispute with you credit card if you paid by card ought to do the trick. If that doesn't work, Small Claims Court works well in most US states- it may be a pain, but if more consumers would use it in ridiculous cases like this, companies would improve.

While I agree a credit card might theoretically offer recourse, in practice I think what would happen is I would end up locked out of my iTunes account and I would discover that all my past "purchases" would be better described as "donations".

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by mthoms »

Okay so it says "free" on the App Store. But the App store says there is $39.99 "Premium" version available.

I'm either an idiot or there is no obvious way to find out how the free version is crippled (without downloading and playing around with it). Nothing on the App store listing and nothing even on their website (!)

I'm so sick of these scummy tricks. Just be upfront with your value proposition and I'll either give you my money or I won't. Don't waste my time.

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by api »

mthoms wrote: post #24

Okay so it says "free" on the App Store. But the App store says there is $39.99 "Premium" version available. I'm either an idiot or there is no obvious way to find out how the free version is crippled (without downloading and playing around with it). Nothing on the App store listing and nothing even on their website (!) I'm so sick of these scummy tricks. Just be upfront with your value proposition and I'll either gi…

It's a trial that lets you install a number of OSes from pre-built images. It's $39 to unlock the ability to install from ISOs or import from Parallels, etc.

But I agree. Better to just charge for the damn thing.

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by seabrookmx »

nwrk wrote: post #22

Happy Veertu user + plus nice vagrant integration [0] The performance is on par with native Docker for OSX and for sure faster than VirtualBox / VMWARE. [0] https://veertu.com/knowledgebase/vagrant-setup-instructions/

That's because "native" docker for OS X uses the same built-in Apple hypervisor under the hood to host the Linux kernel.

Virtualizing Linux in Veertu and then installing Docker on it is basically the same thing.

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by api »

DanielDent wrote: post #7

I bought Veertu through the Mac app store on an early 2009 MacBook Pro. The CPU instructions used for native virtualization are not enabled on the machine. Despite not being compatible with the machine on which I was purchasing, and despite not having documentation on the app store purchase page about the limitations, it let me buy the app - which refused to function. When I requested a refund - after trying multiple…

I think this is more the fault of Apple than the devs of this. So far my experiences as a developer with the app store have been horrific, and I've heard many horror stories far worse than mine.

I've also had several occasions to deal with the IRS on complex issues. In my experience the IRS is far more responsive, has much better customer service, and is generally better organized than the Apple app store.

To Veertu's authors: sell it on your web site and I'll give you $39 without Apple's cut just to help keep the app store marginalized.

I've also decided I will not be buying another iOS device, ever, and if Apple tries to ram the app store any harder on OS X I will be leaving Mac.

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by marora »

mthoms wrote: post #24

Okay so it says "free" on the App Store. But the App store says there is $39.99 "Premium" version available. I'm either an idiot or there is no obvious way to find out how the free version is crippled (without downloading and playing around with it). Nothing on the App store listing and nothing even on their website (!) I'm so sick of these scummy tricks. Just be upfront with your value proposition and I'll either gi…

The Native app is free and there is an IN-app purchase for $39.99. There is also a full $39.99 version available as well.

Re: Native Virtualization For macOS

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Post by marora »

DanielDent wrote: post #21
ensignavenger wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A dispute with you credit card if you paid by card ought to do the trick. If that doesn't work, Small Claims Court works well in most US states- it may be a pain, but if more consumers would use it in ridiculous cases like this, companies would improve.

While I agree a credit card might theoretically offer recourse, in practice I think what would happen is I would end up locked out of my iTunes account and I would discover that all my past "purchases" would be better described as "donations".

There seems to be an issue with Apple refund process. We are escalating it with Apple.
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