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Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by jbigelow76 »

_alexander_ wrote: post #45

I have only one question - when NG2 will be released? Because now it is not possible build real applications, many libraries are not stable, and still in beta or rc... Four month I'm trying to do real application and I must say that it was my big mistake when I decided use Ng2., with every new release I always have troubles with some dependencies or with new API, and there are no many stable components which I can us…

Watching the milestone burndown on github for RC5 looks like it should be here pretty soon (two weeks-ish maybe is my guess), after that it appears the team will be on the last sprint.

I've been writing a few greenfield apps on NG2 since late alhpas and the thrash from RC0 thru RC3 was pretty painful but now playing with the new Router and Forms I get the feeling that the pain was worth it. Things seem relatively stable in RC4 and I really like the Router and Forms apis.

I am staying away from the Angular CLI since I reallllly want the bundling and tree shaking but am moving forward without it for now since it is using the old Router and Forms libs. In my opinion the CLI is the only tool I wouldn't bother until NG2 is done and fully out of RC mode.

I am still optimistic that NG2 is the right solution long term.

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by pbreit »

sdegutis wrote: post #84
pbreit wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's an internal app or if it otherwise doesn't need to be single-page-app, save yourself some brain cells and do something simple like Rails or Django. If JavaScript is absolutely required, stick with Sails/Mongo and skip the Ember/Angular SPA.

How does that help with a rich front-end? We're not looking to use JavaScript simply for the sake of using JavaScript. We want it in particular for a richer front-end. As far as I can tell, Sails isn't going to help with that any more than Rails does. That's why we're looking into Ember or Angular.

OK, wasn't clear to me that "rich front end" was important or necessary. I see a lot of projects choose JS front-ends because they are neat or cutting edge, not because they are useful or necessary.

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by desireco42 »

grkg8tr wrote: post #87
andys627 wrote: post #58

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I wonder where the happy medium is. Setting up React/Redux/React-redux/react-router/react-redux-router/react-redux-router-thunk/webpack-hot-module-oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing takes forever.

Maybe something like http://aurelia.io ?

Wow, really nice!

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by maxfurman »

sdegutis wrote: post #6

Interesting coincidence. This week I've been tasked with looking into a JavaScript framework to replace our pure-Clojure stack at work. One of the front-end candidates is Angular. But we're considering cutting it from the race. The three main things we're looking for in a front-end framework: 1. Longevity: we don't want to adopt yet another fad framework that we'll have to replace in 2017. The current trend looks to…

By pure-Clojure stack, do you mean you use ClojureScript on the front end currently? If so, Om and Reagent are both Clojure-y wrappers around React anyway, so that would probably the smoothest transition for your team. And if not, why not? :-)

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by msane »

kimshibal wrote: post #18
gdi2290 wrote: post #13

Angular 2 is great, just look at all the features you get: WebWorker, Server-Side Rendering, mobile, progressive web application, Lazy loading support, Router, Material Components, Precompile your app. Tree-Shaking support, fast rendering, CLI, and TypeScript. The framework is backed by Google and Microsoft

You don't need all that to create SPA app. it's bloated framework.

What exactly do you not need?

What does "single page app" mean to you? The term is not a description of the amount of features.

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by msane »

ng12 wrote: post #80
andys627 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder where the happy medium is. Setting up React/Redux/React-redux/react-router/react-redux-router/react-redux-router-thunk/webpack-hot-module-oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing takes forever.

You don't need all of that from scratch. You can just build React components, and when it comes time to add a store or a router the only thing you need to change are the glue components that bind things together. I think it works out nicely -- the dev process is as composable as the app itself.

Is that really an argument? that you don't need to write it at the beginning? you still have to do it...

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by yogthos »

gdi2290 wrote: post #13

Angular 2 is great, just look at all the features you get: WebWorker, Server-Side Rendering, mobile, progressive web application, Lazy loading support, Router, Material Components, Precompile your app. Tree-Shaking support, fast rendering, CLI, and TypeScript. The framework is backed by Google and Microsoft

Just like Angular 1 was backed by Google. It boggles my mind that people are still falling for the "backed by Google" thing, after Google has shown time and again that it loves to abandon products.

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by yogthos »

andys627 wrote: post #58
kimshibal wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need all that to create SPA app. it's bloated framework.

I wonder where the happy medium is. Setting up React/Redux/React-redux/react-router/react-redux-router/react-redux-router-thunk/webpack-hot-module-oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing takes forever.

Honestly, the fact that people put up with this in Js ecosystem amazes me to no end. I've been working with ClojureScript on the front-end for the past year, and it's just night and day.

There's a single build tool (http://leiningen.org/), and it manages dependencies, tests, builds, etc. Things just work.

Setting up a new project is as simple as:

lein new reagent-frontend myapp

I can go and start developing it by running

lein figwheel

After it starts I can open the browser at localhost:3449 and any changes I make in the source will be immediately reflected. Once I want to package for release I just do:

lein clean lein release

That's it, I now have minified and pruned Js file that's ready for production.

Re: Angular 2 Fundamentals Course

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Post by sjnair96 »

If anyone has ever tried Anthony Alicea's JS/NodeJS/Angular1 course, please let me know if AngularClass' or any other course is similar to it. I really really liked anthony's course as it gave quite a deep look into sub topics, which are usually only attainable from books, while at the same time keeping it very interesting and also contain lots of best practice material and keeping a healthy focus on understanding over imitating courses. Do let me know if you guys know any other courses of the same style.
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