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Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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Businesses making profit off entities with positive reviews has been the norm: e-commerce etc. Business making profit off entities with negative reviews (GlassDoor, Yelp & friends) reek of protection-rackets. These services are best decentralized rather than be profit-seeking.

The business model is so simple, I doubt the people who start those companies are interested in complication.

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

#12

Businesses making profit off entities with positive reviews has been the norm: e-commerce etc. Business making profit off entities with negative reviews (GlassDoor, Yelp & friends) reek of protection-rackets. These services are best decentralized rather than be profit-seeking.

Soliciting someone to pay for an account to remove negative public reviews comes close to blackmail, correct?

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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Businesses can perhaps incentivize their customers to write good reviews by offering a discount in exchange for a review on Yelp. When the customers are paying the bill, they can ask them for a 1-5 star rating posted alongside a photo of that customer to their Yelp page as some sort of a proof that the said business is not making up those star ratings.

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that Yelp is doing this? The same Yelp that was built on the back of some of the most aggressive, manipulative, downright shady marketing tactics out there?

I've heard multiple complaints from Mom & Pop shops in my neighborhood which basically amount to Yelp calling and saying "Sign up for our premium business package or the negative reviews stay at the top"

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

#15

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that Yelp is doing this? The same Yelp that was built on the back of some of the most aggressive, manipulative, downright shady marketing tactics out there? I've heard multiple complaints from Mom & Pop shops in my neighborhood which basically amount to Yelp calling and saying "Sign up for our premium business package or the negative reviews stay at the top"

Wondering the same thing... odd it has not been mentioned.

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

#16

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that Yelp is doing this? The same Yelp that was built on the back of some of the most aggressive, manipulative, downright shady marketing tactics out there? I've heard multiple complaints from Mom & Pop shops in my neighborhood which basically amount to Yelp calling and saying "Sign up for our premium business package or the negative reviews stay at the top"

Wondering the same thing... odd it has not been mentioned.

apparently there's a doc coming about this called "Billion Dollar Bully" from some small independent filmmakers which yelp is already trying to pre-emptively discredit: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/yelp-accused-mob-like-...

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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> but there will always be a small handful of businesses who mistakenly think it’s a good idea to threaten consumers who exercise their free speech right

Wh... what? the free speech right only covers repercussions initiated by the government. Businesses are not the government so consumers have no free speech right or expectation here.

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

#18

My only concern is around the lack of ability for businesses to respond or request any level of verification that a person actually did business with them. The BBB at least contacts the business and oversees a process for resolution (documenting the entire thing). I personally know multiple business owners who've dealt with threats from customers who will go and write a bad review if they don't simply bow to demands.…

Off-topic, but would Amazon have anything to lose if they completely purged all reviews by users without verified purchases? It would certainly combat the spam reviews problem.

>but would Amazon have anything to lose

Potentially sales. Unfortunately they are in a spot right now where lots of normal people not aware of the fraud see a product with 2000 reviews and 4.5 stars and take that as a strong signal that it's a good buy. They are conditioned to think that 'lots of reviews == well vetted'. If suddenly the review counts plunge by 90% people might be more wary of making a purchase.

They almost need to figure out a way to keep both. Maybe keep the review count for everyone but make the star rating just based on verified purchases...

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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post #12

Businesses making profit off entities with positive reviews has been the norm: e-commerce etc. Business making profit off entities with negative reviews (GlassDoor, Yelp & friends) reek of protection-rackets. These services are best decentralized rather than be profit-seeking.

Soliciting someone to pay for an account to remove negative public reviews comes close to blackmail, correct?

Close, but not quite. Blackmail would be if they held the negative reviews and then released them if they refused to pay.

This is more like a sleezy PR person that offers to help bury a story that they themselves are promoting.

Re: Protecting Free Speech: Why Yelp Is Marking Businesses That Sue Their Customers

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How adorable. Yelp taking the moral high ground. Once I wrote a negative review for a business describing my personal experience with them. The company first wrote me an email and asked me to remove it, I obviously didn't because everything I wrote was true. Then Yelp removed my review, because it was "irrelevant"! :-) Strangely enough, that business had all positive reviews on Yelp with near 5/5 score, while on Google it had a score of around 2.5/5. Does anyone even care about Yelp scores at this point?
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