Not a problem. Let's use paper. (And dear Supreme Court, kindly stick to the constitution this time.)
By November, Russian hackers could target voting machines
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#12Part of me doesn't like the whole red scare deal, but also, electronic voting machines should be banned outright. You think that after the OPM scandal that those things have the highest security??
This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now.
One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.
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#13All yr votin machines belon to us!!
гыгы :)
Re: By November, Russian hackers could target voting machines
#14Part of me doesn't like the whole red scare deal, but also, electronic voting machines should be banned outright. You think that after the OPM scandal that those things have the highest security??
This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now. One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.
They are practically proactively announcing that they intend to invalidate the election results. Coupled with previously announced NATO's position regarding cyber warfare, we are looking at potential nuclear war.
Given that Russians blinked in the missile crisis and Yugoslavia, the establishment appears to think Russians will blink yet again.
But China will not. They crossed the Yalu river in the Korean war and they will not wait until their turn comes. They are not stupid.
The power elite are entirely out of control, drunk with power.
Re: By November, Russian hackers could target voting machines
#15Part of me doesn't like the whole red scare deal, but also, electronic voting machines should be banned outright. You think that after the OPM scandal that those things have the highest security??
This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now. One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.
As do I. My stomach has been churning in disgust seeing the collusion big money media and politicians. This latest attempt to drum up the Russian boogeyman is incredibly laughable, especially since they laughed it off four years ago. Yes Russia is corrupt, shitty regime, but they can't be culpable for every U.S. politician's failures and dirty deeds (where the inverse happens in the Russia), we've become so much like our so called "enemies", obeying and apologizing to top party members, publishing stories that only favor our dear leaders, etc.
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#16That's preposterous, don't you know the cold war is over? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1409sXBleg
Smug, condescending, and dismissive are recurring traits in politicians who eventually eat their words
And remember when Hillary "pushed the reset button" with Russia - because (I guess) relations with them were so bad under Bush - but her team screwed up the translation? That was a classic:
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#17The whole concept of electronic voting machines seems ridiculous to me. Not only are they open to attacks at every level, there really isn't a significant benefit to implementing them, beyond possibly saving some trees.
The peace of mind in trusting election results seems well worth the hassle of paper.
The other big component that I think is missing from the debate over electronic voting is the cost to communities. I loved voting (on paper) in the 2012 election, then staying up a few hours to tally the ballots with the community. Voters came together to count the ballots together and deliver a final count, which has the dual benefit of getting as many eyes on the process as possible (less chance of fraud) and putting 'by the people' back into the election process.
I've seen complaints that that isn't scalable, but I don't buy it. Any community can be broken up into sub-groups that can cast their ballots locally and work together to tally them, even if a group just covers a city block.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now. One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.
They are practically proactively announcing that they intend to invalidate the election results. Coupled with previously announced NATO's position regarding cyber warfare, we are looking at potential nuclear war. Given that Russians blinked in the missile crisis and Yugoslavia, the establishment appears to think Russians will blink yet again. But China will not. They crossed the Yalu river in the Korean war and they…
Unfortunately I am discovering lots of those in tech VC are complicit with the political power elite. Many are pushing the Russia meme on twitter/FB , despite the flimsy evidence and obvious push as a political strategy. I do not think many of them actually believe what they are saying. Terrifying.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
This Red Scare is getting ridiculous now. One of the best things to come out of this election is how much political strategy has been exposed to the general public, inc. media complicity. I have so little faith in the political parties and media.
As do I. My stomach has been churning in disgust seeing the collusion big money media and politicians. This latest attempt to drum up the Russian boogeyman is incredibly laughable, especially since they laughed it off four years ago. Yes Russia is corrupt, shitty regime, but they can't be culpable for every U.S. politician's failures and dirty deeds (where the inverse happens in the Russia), we've become so much like…
Russia is no more of a "corrupt shitty regime" than your own. So maybe, just maybe, you should focus on constructive criticism of your own country instead of offending others, hmmm? After more than 60 years of anti-Russian propaganda I am not quite surprised that most Americans take every opportunity to jab at or feel somehow morally or otherwise superior to Russia and Russians, yet you would be surprised just how opposite and rather humane most Russians think of Americans and the States... and not because of some God given right of American righteousness and superiority, or some Russian inferiority complex.
So cut it with the anti-Russian nonsense.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
As do I. My stomach has been churning in disgust seeing the collusion big money media and politicians. This latest attempt to drum up the Russian boogeyman is incredibly laughable, especially since they laughed it off four years ago. Yes Russia is corrupt, shitty regime, but they can't be culpable for every U.S. politician's failures and dirty deeds (where the inverse happens in the Russia), we've become so much like…
Russia is no more of a "corrupt shitty regime" than your own. So maybe, just maybe, you should focus on constructive criticism of your own country instead of offending others, hmmm? After more than 60 years of anti-Russian propaganda I am not quite surprised that most Americans take every opportunity to jab at or feel somehow morally or otherwise superior to Russia and Russians, yet you would be surprised just how op…
Some of us are actually quite aware of what's going on in Russia. It's true that the US is also very corrupt, and its populace is easily led into believing it has enemies everywhere, but there are qualitative differences, here are a few:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky
http://imrussia.org/en/analysis/nation/2224-a-new-emigration...
The most substantive critics of Putin tend to reside in Russia, and they tend to have the most decisive evidence of corruption, while Americans' negative perceptions of Russia do tend to be based in ignorance. So that point is true, but saying that A is mistaken about why B is bad does not mean that B is actually great, nor does it follow that if A is bad, B isn't.