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How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by __jal »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Personally, I'm more interested in the perception than in the sorts of defensiveness that I'm seeing in response.

Sure, statistically, most visitors aren't going to have any problem with our screwed up police.

But remember that, statistically, your average voter is more likely to drown in a bucket[1] than be a victim of terrorism, and look at what has been done since 2001 "to keep us safe".

Fear is not rational, and "you're wrong" or "I have this issue with your rhetorical technique" is not going to change any minds.

[1] Picked statistically unlikely event at random; did not look up actual statistics. You get the point and I'm not going to respond to pedantry.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by Olscore »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Your comment shows the level of misinformation and reputation damage done by media and various social movements. America is safe for all law-abiding persons. Not only do I disagree with your comment, but I find it offensive that you would propagate the myth. It's damaging and unsubstantiated.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by return0 »

Look Dubai is all for the biggest and largest, so if they are getting serious about surveillance, you can bet they ll want to boast about it.

Also of note is that dubai is ~85% immigrants, which i think it the object of their surveillance.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by raulito123 »

It is really funny the article, you say you use signal to communicate which is totally interceptable nowadays, you register using your real phone, so i could trace you and intercept your real phone!. If you are a real top goverment security guy NEVER use signal my friend. Seems you are newbie on the security scene.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by raulito123 »

It is really funny the article, you say you use signal to communicate which is totally interceptable nowadays, you register using your real phone, so i could trace you and intercept your real phone!. If you are a real top goverment security guy NEVER use signal my friend. Seems you are newbie on the security scene.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by evilsocket »

raulito123 wrote: post #24

It is really funny the article, you say you use signal to communicate which is totally interceptable nowadays, you register using your real phone, so i could trace you and intercept your real phone!. If you are a real top goverment security guy NEVER use signal my friend. Seems you are newbie on the security scene.

I'm not really sure who you're talking to ... they asked me to use Signal, honestly I didn't really care ...

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

I don't just disagree with your post: in light of what evilsocket just stated, your claims are downright ludocrious.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

It looks like Britain's got competition for the dubious award of most surveilled country.

But seriously, this is an absolutely despicable act on the part of the UAE. And that fact that Tor's security has come into question of late just makes it worse (not that Tor would help you with this sort of thing).

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by erlehmann_ »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #18
cup wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

I am disgusted by the race and policing problems in the US, but you have to have some perspective. I've never had a problem as a half-black Canadian business traveler. That doesn't mean I'm not anxious. All though the US may legitimately seem callous and murderous to those on the sharp end of its foreign policy, there are a whole lot of Americans who take this freedom thing seriously. More important, there is a cultu…

I think an important difference is that the victims of most US actions like abduction, imprisonment without trial, torture or assassinations are not US citizens – and it is often done in a foreign country. Because of that, it does not stifle political debate.

Example: The current US administration apparently has a “kill list” for enemies of the US government that they plan to assassinate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

I find such a thing scary and unethical. Yet, as I understand it, domestic political opponents of US politicians do not have to fear torture, disappearance, or imprisonment without trial – it is even possible to openly criticize the people who command such assassinations without being in danger of being executed by the government.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by throwaway-hn123 »

Olscore wrote: post #22
cup wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Your comment shows the level of misinformation and reputation damage done by media and various social movements. America is safe for all law-abiding persons. Not only do I disagree with your comment, but I find it offensive that you would propagate the myth. It's damaging and unsubstantiated.

> America is safe for all law-abiding persons.

This is patently not true. You can blame social media, or SJW's or whatever, but it is not true, except in the minds of the alt-right.

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