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Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #111

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I assume he suggested asking them because Bitcoin isn't the only cryptocurrency.

I'm pretty sure the hacker won't want dogecoin or forked coin.

Oh I don't know, depending on the person they might want some fringe criptocurrency that they swear is the best (for non-economic reasons)

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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I did this a few times in the late '90s when I was a script kiddie eager to learn. I was naive enough to believe that I couldn't get in trouble that way. (I actually once got a job offer as a result.) From a security point of view the internet is a slightly more scary place these days though, with criminal gangs and governments being major threats.

If it's just a nice kid you got lucky, and I would hire someone with a clue on security to thoroughly check your infrastructure at least once. But if it turns out to be a hook for something more nasty, you better get some serious help. Don't trust anything on that server anymore, and if you have other, similar servers running, suspect them to be compromised too.

Also consider if you have any private (i.e. customer) data on that server that might get you in trouble if a third party has/had access to it. You can (re)install servers in seconds, but data is out there forever once leaked.

PS: Did they obtain any SSH keys, or did you have password authentication enabled in the SSH configuration? (Don't do that!)

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #91

In addition to the wonderful technical advice already here for how to deal with the server, there is the question for how to deal with the anonymous person. If the proof contained the method of exploit I suggest something along the lines of: "Thank you for bringing this problem to our attention! We are taking steps to resolve the problem now, but would like to reward you for your work. If you let us know how you woul…

Didn't you read the LastPass thread? If the hacker can take down your company, you have to offer them a reward equal to the value of your company.

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #91

In addition to the wonderful technical advice already here for how to deal with the server, there is the question for how to deal with the anonymous person. If the proof contained the method of exploit I suggest something along the lines of: "Thank you for bringing this problem to our attention! We are taking steps to resolve the problem now, but would like to reward you for your work. If you let us know how you woul…

If it's blackmail then I doubt paying them would effectivly deal with the problem. Hire an expert / contact authorities depending on the circumstances.

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #91

In addition to the wonderful technical advice already here for how to deal with the server, there is the question for how to deal with the anonymous person. If the proof contained the method of exploit I suggest something along the lines of: "Thank you for bringing this problem to our attention! We are taking steps to resolve the problem now, but would like to reward you for your work. If you let us know how you woul…

Unfortunately, it's the later - no details of exploit, just a proof.

If this comes to ransom, rather than unethical/unexperienced gray hat thing, are there any good steps to take? Or hiring an expert consultancy is probably the only good option here?

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #107

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Hi, If you need security professional I can help you. Is the box on AWS, if so that would be a perfect use case for us? You won't have to worry to much about costs since we're starting up we're willing to work with your budget if you provide a testimonial for our website. Send me an email: contact@cloudhawk.io and we'll get started quickly.

I noticed IR services are not listed on your website. I hate to be this guy, but you don't want to offer IR/forensic services if you don't have experience doing exactly that. Your client can sue you if you get it wrong. ( http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/01/security-firm-sued-f... )

We do but it's not part of our MVP ;)

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

#129
My suggestions: If your server has confidential/money related info. take down the server. If not , wait because even if you bring up new server. How do you know , he won't crack it again?

- Check your /var/log/messages & audit.log & ssh/d.log

- Check lastb & last command outputs

- Take dump of network connections. (netstat)

- find out his 'tty' and spy on him! with something like sysdig or using strace (http://serverfault.com/a/423666)

Most importantly do these after turning off bash_history.So that attacker won't see you are gather information.

I assume you are running Linux server.

Re: Ask HN: Anonymous person sent proof of SSH access to our production server

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post #47

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It's the same concept as auditors, there's the big 4 that you've probably heard of, and a ton of other, smaller firms with varying quality. You could go with a known firm like iSec Partners, Matasano (now NCC) or Mitnick Security. They won't be cheap - at worst they may be able to refer you to some other reputable firm if your budget is limited.

> or Mitnick Security Please no. Not Mitnick. I'd rather funnel clients towards my competitors than Kevin Mitnick. He's a skilled social engineer, and his greatest social engineering success was manipulating the media into believing he speaks for hackers in general. He is not a programmer, his opinions on cryptography aren't insighful, etc. His only skill is deception.

Regardless of your opinion of The Man Himself, the company employees people that are good at things beyond social engineering. I've seen two separate engagements with them (one as a 3rd party and one as technical contact), and both found significant non-trivial vulnerabilities that needed to be patched.
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