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Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

Ding ding ding. The whole point of flirting is that it's a gradual (potentially) escalation path with a built in escape route / plausible deniability (for having a romantic interest in someone). It's like tossing across a thin fishing line and then the other person attaching a length of cord to while you pull it back and then attach a rope to, and so on. At any point any party can back down or back out without feeling hugely awkward or embarrassed, and to proceed it requires the cooperative participation of both people. It's quite an elegant system, in fact, it's a shame to many people are baffled by it.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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It is for people that aren't socially adept (which one can learn btw) and this is of course also one important criteria for sexual selection. My view is that it is not in the interest of women (who mostly do the selecting while men do the approaching) to use a process for selection that obfuscates if the approaching person is socially adept or not. It is maybe just my experience, but generally women do know which men…

Do you have a set of suggested resources for learning to be social adept. Its too late for me, but I am hoping to teach it on to my version 2.0 systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influen...

A good start.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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While reading i had to scratch my head and ask myself, is this serious or is someone pulling my leg.

The paper was submitted to SIGTBD 2016. From the website ( http://sigtbd.csail.mit.edu/ ): SIGTBD's emphases includes innovative, elegant (to the point of simplicity) and creative approaches for solving problems that are not traditionally served by the academic community. These problem spaces may be obsolete or unrealistic even by academic standards and are often of debatable research taste.

dlgeek 7 hours ago [-]

The entire site hosting this is hilarious - it appears to be an April Fools parody of an academic tech conference and it's very well executed. "Submissions are double blind and author names must be removed. On the published copy, authors must be ordered by descending number of vowels." reply

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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I don't know any Korean, but the difference in Japanese is that you (generally) don't address people with kōhai. The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. They're really not that different.

> The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

It could also be -san, -kun, or -chan.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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I don't know any Korean, but the difference in Japanese is that you (generally) don't address people with kōhai. The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. They're really not that different.

> The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

> Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

Not only. Even at work you can refer to your colleagues without the honorific -san in some specific contexts.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

i wonder where harassment fits into flirting given that the second party can have a completely negative response to flirtatious advances. also flirting can create an immediate awkward moment as it is very similar to the "just man up and ask" protocol.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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post #22

This already exists, it is called flirting. Given two socially well adjusted participants it allows either party to back down without hurting the other parties feelings and allows everyone to save face. The person escalating the flirtation doesn't feel bad because they aren't outright denied and the respondee isn't put in the awkward situation of having to deny someone. It also has the added benefit of allowing each…

> Given two socially well adjusted participants

But socially poorly-adjusted folks want love too!

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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> The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

> Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships. Not only. Even at work you can refer to your colleagues without the honorific -san in some specific contexts.

Including vocative address?
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