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Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by astrobe_ »

GuiA wrote: post #18

For those not getting the reference, "senpai" is a Japanese honorific used to address one's upper classman in school. A common trope in Japanese medium is that a character will have a crush on a senpai (equivalent to a prefect or hall monitor in that context), only for them to be utterly oblivious to it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SempaiKohai This is a witty paper, as other commenters are noting.

I think you see that trope mainly in hentais and very rarely in regular romcoms, as far as animes go.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by BatFastard »

DominikR wrote: post #54
flukus wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flirting has a high signal to noise ratio. There are also many issues with unintentional signalling.

It is for people that aren't socially adept (which one can learn btw) and this is of course also one important criteria for sexual selection. My view is that it is not in the interest of women (who mostly do the selecting while men do the approaching) to use a process for selection that obfuscates if the approaching person is socially adept or not. It is maybe just my experience, but generally women do know which men…

Do you have a set of suggested resources for learning to be social adept. Its too late for me, but I am hoping to teach it on to my version 2.0 systems.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by philh »

chronolitus wrote: post #58
fdsaaf wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Given two socially well adjusted participants So non-socially-well-adjusted, raised-on-the-internet types shouldn't get to date? Your comment is tautological and merely says that people who are good at dating are good at dating.

I'm not sure what your point is? "So people who never play football shouldn't get to score goals?"

I think it's closer to the other way around. People who can't score goals can still contribute in a football game, for example as goalkeepers. But if you select your team based on who's the best at scoring goals, they're not going to get a chance to demonstrate their goalkeeping ability.

Similarly, I think there are a lot of people who are bad at flirting but would make good romantic partners for the people they're interested in. But being bad at flirting means they often don't get a chance to demonstrate the other qualities they could bring to a relationship.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Kretiini wrote: post #45
smhost wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is "kouhai" used? Is it not the same as hoobae (Korean)?

I don't know any Korean, but the difference in Japanese is that you (generally) don't address people with kōhai. The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. They're really not that different.

> The younger one usually says '-senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ''.

Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

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Post by codeulike »

dlgeek wrote: post #21

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Post by jrockway »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #64
Kretiini wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know any Korean, but the difference in Japanese is that you (generally) don't address people with kōhai. The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. They're really not that different.

> The younger one usually says ' -senpai' or 'senpai', the elder just ' '. Really? I thought use of a bare name was only for intimate relationships.

here is the family name, which in a language without idiomatic spoken pronouns, is how you talk about people.

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by rakoo »

Kalium wrote: post #5

> In his presentation of the original protocol, Aaronson suggests that zero-knowledge proofs can be used to prevent cheating. However, we find this approach unsatisfying, partly because zero-knowledge proofs would make the protocol much more unwieldy and time-consuming, and partly because we have no clue how to actually implement ZKP in this context I am in love with the honesty in this.

> An unavoidable issue with group SENPAI exchanges is the problem of love triangles [...] The authors’ recom- mended solution is polyamory [...] We remark that this situation is just generally shitty, and seri- ously, what do you expect us to even do here?

I love this

Re: Solving the Dating Problem with the SENPAI Protocol [pdf]

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Post by obi1kenobi »

GrumpyNl wrote: post #68

While reading i had to scratch my head and ask myself, is this serious or is someone pulling my leg.

The paper was submitted to SIGTBD 2016. From the website (http://sigtbd.csail.mit.edu/):

SIGTBD's emphases includes innovative, elegant (to the point of simplicity) and creative approaches for solving problems that are not traditionally served by the academic community. These problem spaces may be obsolete or unrealistic even by academic standards and are often of debatable research taste.

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