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Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't "insurance" a criminal activity a mere century ago? If so, why is it bad for it to disappear again? Can't read the full article, since wsj have a competently implemented "To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In" shield.

Is that accurate? Was insurance illegal in the early 20th century? Illegal to buy or sell?

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post #3

Why would they lower prices? The government mandates we MUST have insurance, so they know they've got a continued source of business. They'll simply increase profits. The average American has absolutely no way to correlate the amount they pay for insurance to what it costs the insurance company.

Only if the industry as a whole agrees to not cut rates, and nobody new enters the market. In a competitive market, if the cost goes down (as would happen with fewer accidents) then the rates will drop.

I'm curious if we could see a future where the car manufacturers provide insurance for their product, and you would buy a combined hardware/software/updates/insurance subscription package from a manufacturer. It seems like the inevitable conclusion of all the debate around who's ultimately responsible for the actions a self-driving car takes.

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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post #6

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't "insurance" a criminal activity a mere century ago? If so, why is it bad for it to disappear again? Can't read the full article, since wsj have a competently implemented "To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In" shield.

There are many forms of gambling that were prohibited until they were renamed in a way that appeased influential religious communities.

Off the top of my head I can think of insurance products and the futures market.

But if you can find citations that will be very helpful for me!

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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post #3

Why would they lower prices? The government mandates we MUST have insurance, so they know they've got a continued source of business. They'll simply increase profits. The average American has absolutely no way to correlate the amount they pay for insurance to what it costs the insurance company.

If a large company like Google, Tesla or Uber owns a fleet of self driving cars, they can just self-insure. (The claims will average out to a well understood statistical distribution, and they simply set aside enough money to pay those claims.)

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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post #3

Why would they lower prices? The government mandates we MUST have insurance, so they know they've got a continued source of business. They'll simply increase profits. The average American has absolutely no way to correlate the amount they pay for insurance to what it costs the insurance company.

> The government mandates we MUST have insurance, so they know they've got a continued source of business. The average American has absolutely no way to correlate the amount they pay for insurance to what it costs the insurance company.

I have a hard time reconciling these two sentences. In the first, you sound like a passionate advocate of the free market. In the second, you act as though you have never heard of such a thing.

N.b. Personally, I am much happier knowing that (almost) all the people potentially plowing into me on the highway carry insurance.

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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Not sure how it would affect prices, but if driverless cars (let's call them autopilot-mobiles) take over the world, they may not be owned by individuals anyway, but instead bought as-needed from corporations (e.g. "Just $100 a month for the Commuter Plan".) This would shift insurance industry focus from insuring millions of individuals to thousands (or maybe only dozens) of corporations, so they could also save money on advertising. I will miss the gecko. And Flo (a little.)

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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post #6

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't "insurance" a criminal activity a mere century ago? If so, why is it bad for it to disappear again? Can't read the full article, since wsj have a competently implemented "To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In" shield.

Eh? "Insurance" has never been illegal as far as I'm aware...

You're probably thinking about racketeering, but unless you actually believe your home insurer will set fire to your house if you don't buy fire insurance, the comparison probably isn't apt.

Re: Driverless Cars Threaten to Crash Insurers’ Earnings

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post #3

Why would they lower prices? The government mandates we MUST have insurance, so they know they've got a continued source of business. They'll simply increase profits. The average American has absolutely no way to correlate the amount they pay for insurance to what it costs the insurance company.

> The government mandates we MUST have insurance

Actually, in California, the government does not. You must have either a certain specified minimum level of insurance or a post a specified minimum surety bond.

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