Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

We have an epidemic of bad posture

levels.io

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 152 posts

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#41

Post by rbutler »

josephjrobison wrote: post #28

100% agree with this article - I also don't know how more people aren't in the chiropractor's office weekly. I went through a particularly intense period of working on my laptop and it resulted in a neck spasm so sever it was like daggers trying to move my neck. The doctor prescribed Vicodin it was that bad. But only when I went in for a series of chiropractic sessions did I improve my neck at the source. Thankfully…

Maybe because of the baby whose neck was broken [1], 6-year old who had a stroke [2], and 30-year old killed [3], all at the hands of chiropractors.

[1] http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9223578/Chiropractor-...

[2] https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-manipulati...

[3] https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/stroke-death-from-chiro...

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#42

Post by fzzzy »

yodsanklai wrote: post #33
jseliger wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switching to a sit-stand desk is by far the best thing I've done: http://jakeseliger.com/2015/01/24/geekdesk-max-sit-stand-des... .

It sounds great but I'm wondering, would this be accepted in any company?

Yes.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#43

Post by npsimons »

melling wrote: post #3

He's still not using an ergonomic keyboard. Typical keyboards require the user to press the key to the bottom to activate it, like pushing your finger into the desk. A mechanical keyboard switch activates halfway from the bottom, reducing the extra stress on your fingers. Here's a collection of other RSI stories, along with other ergonomic information: https://github.com/melling/ErgonomicNotes

> Typical keyboards require the user to press the key to the bottom to activate it

For all I don't like about Apple, their aluminum keyboards are what I prefer and use, precisely for the reasons stated in the article, and to counter your claim, the Apple aluminum keyboard travel is very short, so it bottoms out much quicker and still gives a feel like a mechanical keyboard.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#44

Post by surrealvortex »

ravenstine wrote: post #31

How often do you find that a person with a low body-fat ratio with negative effects caused by bad posture? The people who I've seen with obvious problems caused by poor posture, like a hump or sore back or joints, are usually moderately to highly overweight. Kind of like how women with large breasts can have problems with soreness or neck humps. I suspect that it's not so much about good posture as it is about having…

To supply a counter-point, I'm underweight, and I had sore wrists and lower back pain before I made my workspace ergonomic.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#45

Post by mrgoldenbrown »

ravenstine wrote: post #31

How often do you find that a person with a low body-fat ratio with negative effects caused by bad posture? The people who I've seen with obvious problems caused by poor posture, like a hump or sore back or joints, are usually moderately to highly overweight. Kind of like how women with large breasts can have problems with soreness or neck humps. I suspect that it's not so much about good posture as it is about having…

Skinny dude here who has had serious RSI/postural problems. Same for my boss. None of the research I did mentioned bodyweight as a cause for RSI.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#46

Post by rafaelm »

ravenstine wrote: post #31

How often do you find that a person with a low body-fat ratio with negative effects caused by bad posture? The people who I've seen with obvious problems caused by poor posture, like a hump or sore back or joints, are usually moderately to highly overweight. Kind of like how women with large breasts can have problems with soreness or neck humps. I suspect that it's not so much about good posture as it is about having…

My wife weights 43kg and she has pretty bad posture. She is developing a hunch at 35! In my limited knowledge, its because of weak muscles all over. She's been skinny all her life.

I'm looking in to what exercises she can do to get better.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#47

Post by jholloway7 »

jdpage wrote: post #21
jholloway7 wrote: post #14

Lifting weights can help, but it can also cause more harm when your routine isn't properly balanced. Doing only bench press and military press lifts for upper body is going to be a chest/tricep push heavy routine. If you're not balancing these pushes with pulls (chinups, pullups, rows, etc), it can promote issues like rolled shoulders, forward neck, weak traps, weak rhomboids or similar postural issues to those the a…

Do you have any specific beginner's routines you'd recommend? I was doing 5x5, which has pulls in the form of barbell rows and deadlifts; I don't know if that's sufficient.

For specific beginner programs, GSLP and StrongLifts have always seemed like the two with the lowest barriers to entry of the ones I know about.

I would add weighted chin-ups to any beginner routine that doesn't have them, because I personally like to balance not only the push/pull muscles, but also in the horizontal and vertical planes.

You didn't ask, but my current routine consists of these core/compound lifts:

Workout A) * Bench Press (horizontal push) * Barbell Row (horizontal pull) * Squat (leg-driven push)

Workout B) * Overhead Press (vertical push) * Weighted Chin-Ups (vertical pull) * Deadlift (leg-driven pull)

Any lifts besides these are considered accessory and are only programmed in based on specific needs, e.g. weaknesses/imbalances/posture issues/aesthetic goals. If I can't tie an accessory back to a specific need, then it's just considered fuckarounditis and I eliminate it.

I rotate my rep scheme so I'm not always doing high weight / low rep, but sometimes low weight / high reps or medium weight / medium reps. I do this mostly to not get bored, but also because always doing high weight / low rep can get stressful. I'm probably sacrificing strength gains by slowing my progression down, but I'm okay with it.

Disclaimer: everyone's goals are different. I'm pushing 40 and my goals are to maintain a modest level of strength and overall fit appearance (only working out 3 days a week for If one's goal is to be a powerlifter, fitness model, bodybuilder, etc. you most likely have to work harder and take your programming even further than I've taken mine.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#48

Post by mrgoldenbrown »

zeveb wrote: post #36

> Make sure [the mouse is] wireless. I disagree there — wireless mice & keyboards are terribly insecure. Other than that, seems like some good advice here.

I've found wired mice to be lighter. wireless can be heavy , depending on what kind of battery is used.

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#49

Post by jholloway7 »

ZeroFries wrote: post #20
jholloway7 wrote: post #14

Lifting weights can help, but it can also cause more harm when your routine isn't properly balanced. Doing only bench press and military press lifts for upper body is going to be a chest/tricep push heavy routine. If you're not balancing these pushes with pulls (chinups, pullups, rows, etc), it can promote issues like rolled shoulders, forward neck, weak traps, weak rhomboids or similar postural issues to those the a…

Yep, getting a strong back (from pull type movements, as well as squats and deadlifts) has improved my posture more than anything else. Another to look into is weak/mis-firing glutes (from sitting all the time). Apparently planks (of a certain kind where you squeeze your glutes as well) help for that. http://www.romphysicaltherapy.ie/best-exercises-to-strengthe...

Totally agree!

Re: We have an epidemic of bad posture

#50

Post by gooseus »

rbutler wrote: post #41
josephjrobison wrote: post #28

100% agree with this article - I also don't know how more people aren't in the chiropractor's office weekly. I went through a particularly intense period of working on my laptop and it resulted in a neck spasm so sever it was like daggers trying to move my neck. The doctor prescribed Vicodin it was that bad. But only when I went in for a series of chiropractic sessions did I improve my neck at the source. Thankfully…

Maybe because of the baby whose neck was broken [1], 6-year old who had a stroke [2], and 30-year old killed [3], all at the hands of chiropractors. [1] http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/9223578/Chiropractor-... [2] https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-manipulati... [3] https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/stroke-death-from-chiro...

Yeah, I don't know why people get surgery considering perioperative mortality[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perioperative_mortality

/s

Obviously people die all the time and the cause of death can be attributed to any number of activities that are otherwise beneficial to the vast majority of people who undertake them.

Post reply on HN