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Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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Random idea, but what if you could combine market data with news articles, and (obviously only for the past few years) data from blogs/reddit/hn/twitter/etc.? Sometimes there is fascinating insight to be learned in obscure places on the Internet (hn itself being a great example); I imagine a system that would collect and analyze that kind of information would be quite interesting, despite the huge amount of noise. Su…

Glib answer.... You'd get really mad at Anne Hathaway http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/03/does-a... Longer answer, this has been done for 10+ years. Bloomberg will sell you a sentiment annotated news feed for 5 figures a month if you'd like to try.

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Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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In fairness, if someone told me they were going to make a killing on free webmail supported by ads and data mining, I think "How on earth do you intend to complete with Google?" would be a perfectly legitimate question.

In fairness, by that logic nothing would ever get done. Microsoft? You're never going to win over IBM. Xerox? You'll always be ancillary to Kodak. GM? Ford is already there. The Fugger's Banking company? Good luck against the Venetians and the Florentines. Same old story. At the end of the day, you either try something new or you don't.

> In fairness, by that logic nothing would ever get done.

Or it will get done by people who have thought long and hard about how they are going to compete with the giants, rather than someone naïve sap.

The fact that the question is being asked does not imply that there are no good answers to it, but it is unlikely that someone who hasn't spent time considering how to improve on the incumbents is going to beat them.

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, if someone told me they were going to make a killing on free webmail supported by ads and data mining, I think "How on earth do you intend to complete with Google?" would be a perfectly legitimate question.

In fairness, by that logic nothing would ever get done. Microsoft? You're never going to win over IBM. Xerox? You'll always be ancillary to Kodak. GM? Ford is already there. The Fugger's Banking company? Good luck against the Venetians and the Florentines. Same old story. At the end of the day, you either try something new or you don't.

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Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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I run Quantopian's Lectures, which are also intended to teach the statistics behind trading. https://www.quantopian.com/lectures

Hi Delaney, you're my favorite quantopian. Just watched all the lectures and I think jupyter notebooks are the best way to learn combined with a lecture for nearly any programming related subject.

Thanks, happy they've been helpful. I agree that they're a super powerful teaching tool. We actually got the idea when seeing a prof at Harvard using them to teach the entire class: homeworks, lectures, everything.

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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I've typed and deleted this post a few times trying to find a way that it doesn't sound kind of pompous but if it helps save one person alot of money then screw it, I'll sound pompous.... I get asked quite a bit on how to start doing algorithmic trading and the first thing I always tell people is don't. I think I've said this many times now but the number of people who come at it with the thinking "I'm a computer sci…

I never understood this. If its possible to be a profitable independent day trader, and we know it is because many are, then it should be possible to code the rules you follow and become a profitable algo trader.

No idea why are you being downvoted for expressing an opinion and asking for an explanation ...

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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I run Quantopian's Lectures, which are also intended to teach the statistics behind trading. https://www.quantopian.com/lectures

These have been really great. Thanks for putting them together!

No problem, more on the way.

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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What you really want is more transparent data. There are plenty of data points but they are not easily accessible.

and I think the lack of this perpetuates market inefficiencies. I think insights into CDS can be a leading indicator into equities and equity futures, yet CDS are restricted to OTC markets in the US anyway, I'm sure this is its own discussion

CDS isn't an OTC instruments. Swaps are now traded on SEFs like MarketAxess or TradeWeb. Just because you don't have access to the data don't think that professionals don't. But this isn't OHLC data for listed equities. Expect to pay. Actually high quality realtime equity data (ITCH,PITCH,OpenBook Ultra,etc...) costs real money as well.

Checkout CDS and FI market data offerings: https://www.marketaxess.com/data/marketdata.php

But your idea is correct. CDS Spreads can be predictive of dramatic shocks in an equities price.

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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I'm curious what folk's thoughts are on these two platforms: Interactive brokers offers low fee access to their platform ( https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=13869 ) Quantopian (www.quantopian.com) gives you the ability to trade through robinhood with long trades at 0 commission. There has been some skepticism in the Q forums on how well robinhood's execution is (possibly the effect of a "you get what…

My thoughts are that if you use either platform for anything other than entertainment you're a fool. Seriously, here's your competition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Technologies How deluded do you have to be to think you have an edge over that?

This isn't true. There are a non-zero number of traders who use IB and post positive returns.

For example Taaffeite Capital Management (who gained some publicity for good returns on Brexit) are a Sure, bigger funds have better market access, and it will always be impossible to implement a high frequency trading approach. But these platforms are about as good as a small player can get.

[1] http://www.afr.com/personal-finance/shares/artificial-intell...

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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I've typed and deleted this post a few times trying to find a way that it doesn't sound kind of pompous but if it helps save one person alot of money then screw it, I'll sound pompous.... I get asked quite a bit on how to start doing algorithmic trading and the first thing I always tell people is don't. I think I've said this many times now but the number of people who come at it with the thinking "I'm a computer sci…

Can't find the original comment but somebody wrote here time ago that some HFs let you run on their infrastructure (keeping 85/90% of any profits) if you can prove to have a valid strategy. Just out of curiosity, I could not find any other information about this, is it a thing that actually happens?

Yes it is. Small arrangements like this all over Chicago. Perhaps NY also.

The big issue isnt actually infa it's capital. If you want to trade big you need a million bucks or something on hold with the exchange.

How do you borrow a mil to park at an exchange? The guys mentioned above.

Re: Introduction to Zipline: A Trading Library for Python

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post #52

I've typed and deleted this post a few times trying to find a way that it doesn't sound kind of pompous but if it helps save one person alot of money then screw it, I'll sound pompous.... I get asked quite a bit on how to start doing algorithmic trading and the first thing I always tell people is don't. I think I've said this many times now but the number of people who come at it with the thinking "I'm a computer sci…

Random idea, but what if you could combine market data with news articles, and (obviously only for the past few years) data from blogs/reddit/hn/twitter/etc.? Sometimes there is fascinating insight to be learned in obscure places on the Internet (hn itself being a great example); I imagine a system that would collect and analyze that kind of information would be quite interesting, despite the huge amount of noise. Su…

Here you go: https://www.quandl.com/browse?idx=database-browser_stock-dat...
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