The World's most Ingenious Thief
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The World's most Ingenious Thief
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#2I am simply amazed. The fellow, all morality aside, is simply Mr. BadAss himself.
Two years in jail for all that! I know of people who have participated in the sale of $10,000 US worth of Cocaine (a pittance, all things considered) and have gotten life sentences.
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#3If you liked this story, you might also enjoy the Silver Thief.
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#4I am simply amazed. The fellow, all morality aside, is simply Mr. BadAss himself. Two years in jail for all that! I know of people who have participated in the sale of $10,000 US worth of Cocaine (a pittance, all things considered) and have gotten life sentences.
That's because it was Cocaine, not because of the money. They could have been giving the coke away and they still would have received a life sentence, most likely.
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#5I have to wonder if the guy actually wants to turn his life around. If you look at it rationally, he got off pretty easy - 2 years imprisonment, and some probation - and there's no way to be sure that he actually told them about everything or gave back all of the money. With the kind of stuff he did, he could easily have had enough money stored away to pay reasonable 'restitution' and still have plenty left over in offshore accounts. The video recordings suggest he probably wasn't that cautious, but it's possible.
It'd be a happy ending to the story if the guy ended up as a hard-working security consultant trying to stop the bad guys, but based on how he's depicted in this article - a patient, methodical crook with a knack for manipulation - he could easily just be waiting patiently until he can go back to what he was doing before. If he actually does work as a security consultant for banks, that would be an easy way to stay in the loop on new security improvements and procedures.
Hopefully law enforcement keeps a close eye on him.
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#6I am simply amazed. The fellow, all morality aside, is simply Mr. BadAss himself. Two years in jail for all that! I know of people who have participated in the sale of $10,000 US worth of Cocaine (a pittance, all things considered) and have gotten life sentences.
That's because it was Cocaine, not because of the money. They could have been giving the coke away and they still would have received a life sentence, most likely.
I agree with your point, and I knew that - giving drugs away is distribution and a person will get into just as much trouble for it. What I aimed to express was how amazed I am at the way things work out in the criminal world, and how talented AND lucky that fellow is. I mean, no violence at all, all that money, and two years (once again, I know of cases where people have done that long, in installments, for traffic tickets!) plus the very real possibility of landing a well paid job afterwards . . . just amazing.
You know what I like about this guy? that he did not prey on the weak. He preyed on those bigger and stronger than him.
Ah, to think that he could have rented that van under another name, and taken steps to make sure there were no prints left anywhere, which is actually very easy to do . . . this goes to show, no one, not even someone like that, can be a one man Army . . .
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#7And to think the guy is actually a geek if I ever saw one . . . I love this! There are Mafia/Gang Baboons who commit violent crimes and prey on the weak who can't DREAM of as much money as this guy made.
What do you know? Our very own geek criminal mastermind :-)
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's because it was Cocaine, not because of the money. They could have been giving the coke away and they still would have received a life sentence, most likely.
I agree with your point, and I knew that - giving drugs away is distribution and a person will get into just as much trouble for it. What I aimed to express was how amazed I am at the way things work out in the criminal world, and how talented AND lucky that fellow is. I mean, no violence at all, all that money, and two years (once again, I know of cases where people have done that long, in installments, for traffic…
> You know what I like about this guy? that he did not prey on the weak. He preyed on those bigger and stronger than him.
Oh please with the righteous Robin Hood ethics. First, they were not stronger than him, that how he got in. Second, just because you're a bank, it doesn't mean having hundreds of thousands stolen doesn't impact anyone, or is somehow just, for that matter. Third, what do you call framing the Brink-guy for smoke-screen? Fourth, or withdrawing from thousands of pirated credit- and debit cards? Fifth, or stealing a national treasure from the people of Austria, only to stick it in a cellar, to be lost?
Even though he didn't exploit personal weaknesses in the same way a drug-dealer does, he did indeed inflict harm on actual people.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your point, and I knew that - giving drugs away is distribution and a person will get into just as much trouble for it. What I aimed to express was how amazed I am at the way things work out in the criminal world, and how talented AND lucky that fellow is. I mean, no violence at all, all that money, and two years (once again, I know of cases where people have done that long, in installments, for traffic…
> You know what I like about this guy? that he did not prey on the weak. He preyed on those bigger and stronger than him. Oh please with the righteous Robin Hood ethics. First, they were not stronger than him, that how he got in. Second, just because you're a bank, it doesn't mean having hundreds of thousands stolen doesn't impact anyone, or is somehow just, for that matter. Third, what do you call framing the Brink-…
It's an interesting dilemma.
One one side what he does is obviously wrong. On the other side what fantastic skills.
With regards to the people of Austria I am pretty sure that the star wasn't made without exploiting other people.
Things like these are not so black and white.
That story is a film worthy.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your point, and I knew that - giving drugs away is distribution and a person will get into just as much trouble for it. What I aimed to express was how amazed I am at the way things work out in the criminal world, and how talented AND lucky that fellow is. I mean, no violence at all, all that money, and two years (once again, I know of cases where people have done that long, in installments, for traffic…
> You know what I like about this guy? that he did not prey on the weak. He preyed on those bigger and stronger than him. Oh please with the righteous Robin Hood ethics. First, they were not stronger than him, that how he got in. Second, just because you're a bank, it doesn't mean having hundreds of thousands stolen doesn't impact anyone, or is somehow just, for that matter. Third, what do you call framing the Brink-…
Interesting, that you would attribute "righteous Robin Hood ethics" to my post. Not so. Read what I wrote.
They were stronger than him in the sense that they had more resources than he did. That they failed to utilize those in an efficient manner is another matter altogether.
Nor did I say that stealing from a bank is just, or that it did not impact anyone.
Framing the brinks guy? Was the man charged or convicted? No. Therefore, no frame.
Withdrawing from thousands of cards, thereby circumventing the security of financial institutions (who have billions available to them) qualifies as taking on stronger forces.
Stealing that jewel is another instance of that.
Nor did I say that he inflicted no harm on anyone.
Please, quote me on what I wrote, not what you fantasized and imagined I wrote.
How ridiculous, one states something, and here comes someone with deficient reading skills and whips up a slew of crap that has no bearing on what I stated.
Once again, go ahead, quote me on what I wrote. If I wanted to express the things you claim I did, I could have and can do so quite explicitly and clearly.