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Alleged founder of world’s largest BitTorrent distribution site arrested

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I think you hit the nail on the head. There is big generation gap on how the execs view the business model vs how their teenagers are using the product. And as the new generation slowly takes over, the model will evolve. Evolve or die right!

I agree mostly with this, but I am not sure it is all generational gap, or that large entities move slowly. Also see my comment above about IP and copyright in reference to Zara copying an indie artist's designs and placing the patches on their clothing. How come it is not ok when the shoe is on the other foot? To be clear, I am sincerely asking here, since I go through bouts of taking one side then the other on musi…

It's not different legally, they both have a right to protect their intellectual property.

There is a case to be made that people should have a human right to see or consume any media which might be enriching to their lives, even if they can't afford to. But seeing a movie is not the same as archiving and distributing that movie.

In my opinion, software and movie piracy is a side-effect of an industry that does not properly serve it's own market. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't play a role in that. Smart people would recognize that they are playing the game wrong, and they would have adapted their model by now. Some have tried, Netflix is a great effort to move in the right direction but it's been crippled by the idiotic licensing structure of the pre-internet business model.

Without getting into debates about morality or ethics, the MPAA and RIAA are getting what they deserve for responding to these challenges by responding with hostility toward their own consumers. They have not responded properly to the situation, and they dug themselves into further trouble.

Re: Alleged founder of world’s largest BitTorrent distribution site arrested

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post #156

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I agree mostly with this, but I am not sure it is all generational gap, or that large entities move slowly. Also see my comment above about IP and copyright in reference to Zara copying an indie artist's designs and placing the patches on their clothing. How come it is not ok when the shoe is on the other foot? To be clear, I am sincerely asking here, since I go through bouts of taking one side then the other on musi…

It's not different legally, they both have a right to protect their intellectual property. There is a case to be made that people should have a human right to see or consume any media which might be enriching to their lives, even if they can't afford to. But seeing a movie is not the same as archiving and distributing that movie. In my opinion, software and movie piracy is a side-effect of an industry that does not p…

> It's not different legally

It probably is different legally.

There are civil remedies and criminal penalties.

Criminal penalties tend to apply for willful infringement for commercial gain.

So when I download a movie it doesn't count. If I download movies and sell them it does. Zara removing the copyright notices from a designer's work, placing it on their clothing, and selling it pretty clearly moves it into the criminal end of copyright violation.

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The USA will not extradite someone for a crime that is not also a crime in the USA itself.

Does USA ever extradite its own citizens anywhere? Has this ever happened?

Yes it happens, not often but it does.

Re: Alleged founder of world’s largest BitTorrent distribution site arrested

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Those are streaming websites, correct? I downlowd my music instead of using spotfy so I can listen to it where and when I want, the same with movies. HBO Go I would pay for though as I rather watch their shows as soon as they come out than download it later. But it's not available in my country.

Spotify does allow you to save your music for listening offline.

With DRM?

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But that's just more data, you just JOIN another table - the exchanges have a list of transactions, left column BTC adress, right column litecoin adress. The difficult one-time work will be done when chasing terrorists. Everyone can be compelled to hand over data. Crime is impossible.

If you sell btc for ltc on one site, split up the balances, then sell the ltc for btc on different sites, how exactly would someone piece that back together? The crypto currency exchanges would be transferring to and from their internal addresses. There would be no direct connection without knowing all the addresses the exchanges use, and they can (and should) use a different address for each transaction. > Crime is…

The "sites" keep track of the transactions. This information could leak or law enforcement could successfully request this information.

High level analysis could find btc-altcoin transactions that "fit" together, maybe with later transaction when the person will eventually cash out, and use other data thats not obvious to us right now. A difficult problem, but one that is straightforward, fashionable (big data), profitable (lots of money at stake), and potentially something that law enforcement/intelligence agencies work on.

We tend to underestimate future capabilities ;)

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The level of condescension required to write something like that is truly astounding. Not only are you assuming everyone who disagrees with you is wrong - but you are assuming that the error stems from youth, and in particular from "bad decisions" as judged solely by you! How arrogant do you have to be to observe humanity and decide that "bad decision making" is not only all around you but you are also somehow immune…

Actually, no, you're 100% wrong -- dangerously wrong. Failure to follow the law has consequences. My point is that, simply. "Getting a benefit that is legally required to be paid for AND NOT PAYING" is stealing. Staying out of trouble is a SURVIVAL STRATEGY. A lot of people out there have very poor survival inclinations. Making bad decisions can really hurt you. While stealing from the author of copyrighted works may…

I believe in psychology this is called white and black thinking. It's one of the many red flags I've found reading your comments. This idea of labelling people 'good' or 'bad' based on a single minimal interaction is also a red flag. I suggest you see a mental health professional - it's hard to live like that. I know there is stigma associated to it in the USA and other places, but if you want to get better that's probably the only way to do so.

Here's to hoping you seek the help you require.

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