Is there something like this for React Native? I'm interested in recommended directory structure.
Create React Apps with No Configuration
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#72> Having just attended EmberCamp a week ago, I was excited about Ember CLI. Ember users have a great “getting started” experience thanks to a curated set of tools united under a single command-line interface. This is one of the best things about Ember. `ember new`, `ember serve`, ember generate component my-component`, `ember build`, `ember deploy`, `ember install`. It's opinionated but it lets you get productive rig…
The problem is that when frameworks develop these CLIs they tend to think only about the CLI users and it becomes larger and larger a requirement. Personally I'm a web developer, I don't want to be a React developer or an Ember developer, etc. so the more difficult you make it to use your stuff with normal web technologies the less I want to have anything to do with it.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kind of interesting to think about the two projects and how they diverge based on the core developers. Ember is made by folks who work on / for small and medium companies[1]. They don't have the build infrastructure Facebook does and are able to create an anointed solution in Ember-CLI because they'll use it daily. React is stuck in a place where the environment it's developed in is unique from what any other user wi…
This is a very accurate description of the problem. We’re optimistic though. I’m sure that the community will help make Create React App even better.
Sorry I edited in a WHOLE bunch more that you probably wouldn't agree with after your reply. Apologies!
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#74Under the hood this is Webpack + Babel + ESLint with sane initial configuration. Love it.
This is all I ever want in a React boilerplate, but everyone feels the need to throw a bunch of random shit into them that others probably do not even want. Glad they kept it sane and simple.
As someone not new to React, I'm seeing this tool as a solid replacement to the old JSX Transformer script they used to provide. Let me get up and running just a bit more quickly.
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#75Is there something like this for React Native? I'm interested in recommended directory structure.
This is kind of built in to React Native already, but they use their own packager (ReactPackager) instead of webpack. Would be neat for ReactJS and React Native tools to converge at some point!
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#76This is great for someone who wants to get started to learn React, but is missing a ton that is needed for a real world production app. * No isomorphic rendering * No hot module replacement * No generators * No dockerization * No Sass support * No test environment setup * No code splitting It would be cool to have a production ready tool from Facebook, but I'll stick with gluestick for now https://github.com/TrueCar/…
What an odd and arbitrary list. SASS support over LESS over PostCSS over CSS in JS? Component boilerplate generation is required for production? Hot module replacement is required for production? Everyone using React is looking for an isomorphic solution? Docker support?! I think the point of the project is to acknowledge that React requiring transpilation to use is 100% accurate and there needed to be a transpilatio…
> SASS support over LESS over PostCSS over CSS in JS?
Well yes, because any CSS in JS solution (in PostCSS) is just plain bad for a myriad of reasons.
That would leave you with SASS vs LESS and SASS is massively more popular and supported.
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#77> Having just attended EmberCamp a week ago, I was excited about Ember CLI. Ember users have a great “getting started” experience thanks to a curated set of tools united under a single command-line interface. This is one of the best things about Ember. `ember new`, `ember serve`, ember generate component my-component`, `ember build`, `ember deploy`, `ember install`. It's opinionated but it lets you get productive rig…
The problem is that when frameworks develop these CLIs they tend to think only about the CLI users and it becomes larger and larger a requirement. Personally I'm a web developer, I don't want to be a React developer or an Ember developer, etc. so the more difficult you make it to use your stuff with normal web technologies the less I want to have anything to do with it.
> The problem is that when frameworks develop these CLIs they tend to think only about the CLI users and it becomes larger and larger a requirement
Well there are two ways to modify an Ember project: create a bunch of files in various places by hand, or run `ember whatever` and have it done for you. The CLI is the preferred way of doing it for a lot of (good) reasons but if you want a new component running `ember g my-component` and having it make the component JS file, the template and the tests for you in one fell swoop is awesome.
> so the more difficult you make it to use your stuff with normal web technologies the less I want to have anything to do with it.
I don't understand your point? What's a 'normal web technology'?
Re: Create React Apps with No Configuration
#78> Having just attended EmberCamp a week ago, I was excited about Ember CLI. Ember users have a great “getting started” experience thanks to a curated set of tools united under a single command-line interface. This is one of the best things about Ember. `ember new`, `ember serve`, ember generate component my-component`, `ember build`, `ember deploy`, `ember install`. It's opinionated but it lets you get productive rig…
Don't forget: https://www.ember-fastboot.com/ Also two commands to get server rendering working.
I personally use Django as a backend for my Ember stuff, which means I miss out on the whole fastboot experience. It does look really nice though.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was just talking about this with coworkers... I love React but the community (aside from the actual creators and leaders like Dan) is too much for me and seem to love bloat and unnecessary features. The cynical side of me thinks a lot just do it for GitHub stars and blog views, but maybe not. Of course, we just spent two days trying to decipher a React/Redux project whose lead dev decided to use every "latest" feat…
We think ES6 is not the problem here. It’s just a language, and arguably a better one than ES5. The problem is the low level tooling around it. This is what we’re trying to fix with this project. Hopefully you’ll give it a go, and maybe it will give you just as much enjoyment as using tags. If not, please let us know how we can improve. It’s not linting/transpilation/bundling that’s bad, it’s that it’s hard to do the…
I think the problem is that React is developed as more of a Node/JavaScript project than as a web project. You see this in stuff like depending on `process`, a thing that exists in Node but not on the Web. So the Web is a compilation target; not the platform that React is developed for.
From there it's easy to think about everything in terms of JavaScript, and not making the Web the intended target for usage.
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#80This is great for someone who wants to get started to learn React, but is missing a ton that is needed for a real world production app. * No isomorphic rendering * No hot module replacement * No generators * No dockerization * No Sass support * No test environment setup * No code splitting It would be cool to have a production ready tool from Facebook, but I'll stick with gluestick for now https://github.com/TrueCar/…
It's goal is to be for a front-end SPA. None of that is needed for it's stated goals.
Also - HMR, generators, dockerization, sass, & test environments are not needed for many/most projects initially. When they ARE needed you'll be beyond the point you need this kit anyhow.