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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by cyphar »

Iv wrote: post #113

Here is a good time to repost a paragraph about why one should not trust Reddit, by Reddit's then CEO, Yishan Wong: > I am continually astounded that people sort of trust corporations like they trust people. We can talk all day about how the current team is trustworthy and we're not in the business of screwing you, but I also have to say that you can never predict what happens. reddit could be subject to some kind of…

And this is why we really need to put more effort into distributed, free software social networks. Having a single point of failure that will eventually be bought by $bigCo results in many issues with preservation of culture and history in online communities.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by twblalock »

tamana wrote: post #180
twblalock wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't imagine a situation where someone has beliefs that do not affect his actions in any way. That was an extreme example used to illustrate the point I was making. Racism is also only an example; there are plenty of other beliefs that are bad for society. Personally, I suspect that sexism is probably far more prevalent on Reddit than racism, for example. Social stigma can prevent one's beliefs from affecting on…

Now explain why Facebook has far worse racist garbage than Reddit (at least the parts that mainstream users see without digging for crap) proudly on display to family and friends and the public, Real Name and photos attached.

Lots of people are racist. That is a sufficient explanation.

However, I very strongly suspect that no matter what the level of racism on Facebook is, it would be far higher if people were able to post anonymously.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by morgante »

blahi wrote: post #168
flashman wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I detect in Reddit's new ideas: the fear that the existing site is good enough for most people and its population has therefore stabilised... which would be pretty bad for certain kinds of investor looking for a big one-off return instead of a consistent dividend.

Oh god. There are no "investors". Reddit is owned by Conde Nast's parent company. The only other shareholders are employees.

Wrong.

Reddit has recently received substantial outside investments: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/01/reddit-se...

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by stale2002 »

dang wrote: post #144
dingo_bat wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't agree that the post in question is "inflammatory"in any way. If hn is going to be so strictly/randomly moderated that you have to think twice before presenting your reasonable views, it can't be good for the website.

That's not a "reasonable view", it's a fantasy that purports to read other people's minds from 10 years ago in order to demean their work. I'm pretty comfortable saying comments like that don't belong on HN and that we would all do better to think more and inhibit ourselves before posting them. If people want to slag others on the internet, there are plenty of places to do it; here we try for a higher standard.

XD Oh no, I hope Yishan and Alexis didn't get too upset after someone criticized their billion dollar company.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by morgante »

jfoutz wrote: post #8

I didn't realize drinking on the job was a thing. I've had the odd company party with beer in the late afternoon, but that's perhaps twice a year. I'm not a teetotaler by any stretch of the imagination, but drinking at work seems counterproductive.

At a previous startup, I would regularly work past 7 or 8pm.

At that point in the day, I definitely liked being able to crack open a cold cider. It's not like I was getting drunk, and I would often continue to code for a few more hours.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by [deleted] »

twblalock wrote: post #6

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by kartickv »

twblalock wrote: post #6

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

I have a theory — to clean up a site, find and expel the most egregious offenders, like the people who engage in repeated name-calling ("You are a fucking asshole!") as opposed to constructive discussion. You can't police every user, but if you find and expel the worst offenders, I suspect it will have a significant effect on the quality of conversation.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by codezero »

kartickv wrote: post #207
twblalock wrote: post #6

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

I have a theory — to clean up a site, find and expel the most egregious offenders, like the people who engage in repeated name-calling ("You are a fucking asshole!") as opposed to constructive discussion. You can't police every user, but if you find and expel the worst offenders, I suspect it will have a significant effect on the quality of conversation.

You'd be very surprised. The most abrasive people in a community do a very good job of building a positive reputation amongst other "power users" such that banning them causes a ripple effect in the community that _always_ makes the moderators look like one-sided haters.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by mrweasel »

gdulli wrote: post #112

Reddit is a content management system for spam and stupidity.

Just like Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr. When sites with user generated content grows to big, they seem to degrade to "monkeys with typewriters". The good content is mostly still there, it just drowns in the bad stuff.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by james32322 »

jdminhbg wrote: post #154
empath75 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit's main problem is that they spent years building their user base as a site to find 'jailbait' porn (it was by far the largest search result that brought people to Reddit for a long time). That created a toxic culture, which allowed stormfront and similar groups to use it as a recruitment ground for racists. Reddit still refuses to do anything about it. The 'quarantined' a bunch of truly vile subreddits but all…

> (it was by far the largest search result that brought people to Reddit for a long time) I'm pretty skeptical of this. I can maybe see my way to believing that googling "jailbait" beats out any single one of ["pic" "pics" "funny" "joke" ...], but the normal SFW subreddits have always been vastly bigger than the porn subs. I'm also really skeptical of the causation chain that leads from jailbait -> Stormfront -> gene…

https://web.archive.org/web/20090814032422/http://www.alexa....?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti...

Seems like for a time it was the second biggest refer keyword, web archive doesnt really back it up though.

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