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Peter Thiel Becomes First RNC Speaker to Say He's Proud to Be Gay [video]

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Re: Peter Thiel Becomes First RNC Speaker to Say He's Proud to Be Gay [video]

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Post by pinaceae »

fsaneq2 wrote: post #2

Now, will the liberals cut the bullshit about the republicans being racist/homophobic/etc, and finally start to come up with real arguments?

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/07/mike-pences-top-seven-hom...

this is the current candidate for VP. but yeah, he looooves gay people, mhm.

Re: Peter Thiel Becomes First RNC Speaker to Say He's Proud to Be Gay [video]

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Post by rbritton »

fsaneq2 wrote: post #2

Now, will the liberals cut the bullshit about the republicans being racist/homophobic/etc, and finally start to come up with real arguments?

Those kinds of arguments are easier to fabricate than to actually assemble well thought out, evidence-backed positions. They're probably more effective too. This applies to both sides.

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Post by mikeyouse »

fsaneq2 wrote: post #2

Now, will the liberals cut the bullshit about the republicans being racist/homophobic/etc, and finally start to come up with real arguments?

The Republican platform literally calls for conversion therapy for gay children, the overturning of nationwide gay marriage, rolling back civil rights protections for lgbt people, forcing transgendered people to use different bathrooms, and discouraging gay parents from adopting -- one token gay guy on stage doesn't change any of that.

It's not just liberals that think Republicans are homophobic, its gay people and Republicans too. Many in the party are proudly so. There's a reason their support from there lgbt population is ~0% (likewise with black, Hispanic, and Asian people as well).

Re: Peter Thiel Becomes First RNC Speaker to Say He's Proud to Be Gay [video]

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Post by fsaneq2 »

mikeyouse wrote: post #8
fsaneq2 wrote: post #2

Now, will the liberals cut the bullshit about the republicans being racist/homophobic/etc, and finally start to come up with real arguments?

The Republican platform literally calls for conversion therapy for gay children, the overturning of nationwide gay marriage, rolling back civil rights protections for lgbt people, forcing transgendered people to use different bathrooms, and discouraging gay parents from adopting -- one token gay guy on stage doesn't change any of that. It's not just liberals that think Republicans are homophobic, its gay people and R…

My comment is obviously a simplification and was meant to be somewhat provocative. I also haven't run a survey of all republican voters, so I don't know, perhaps you're right. The crowd's reaction certainly seems to contradict you though.

And looking at say Trump's website -- https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions -- none of this is even mentioned. Sure, maybe in some outlier areas, mumbling something about overturning nationwide gay marriage will get you a few votes.

But I think that the average republican couldn't care less, and it's a shame the relatively minor outliers keep on being brought up, ruining any interesting discussion in the process.

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