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Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

Will the NATO revoke their membership? Turkey is pretty important, to be fair. Revoking their license would definitely cause a lot of trouble, although I can see them doing it if there is no other option.

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

Unfortunately, the people of Turkey were going to be screwed no matter how the coup went. If it had succeeded, they would have got a military dictatorship. Now they get a different kind of dictatorship instead. Erdogan was slowly evolving into a dictator before the coup, and now he's accelerating that process. I wonder if the best outcome for democracy in Turkey would have been a attempted coup which resulted in Erdo…

The Turkish military has a long history of executing a coup and then returning control to a new civilian government. While military coups often lead to military dictatorships, that has not been the case in Turkey, and it is in fact one of the established roles of the Turkish military to do so.

> Turkish Armed Forces see themselves as the guardians of the secular and unitary nature of the Republic along with Atatürk's reforms and have intervened by taking over the government three times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Turkey#Influen...

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

#13
post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

I do. I think the answer is "never", or "not as a result of this government". When there are internal issues present, military is fragmented and may not act when needed, etc. - that's the time when NATO should be most useful and most needed. Otherwise you get a country which cannot really defend itself and announce to the world - yeah, we don't really care about them anyway.

Speculation - would Ukraine get attacked last year if it was a full NATO member?

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

#14
post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

Unfortunately NATO probably needs Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO.

-refugees, refugees, refugees

-2nd biggest military in NATO

-Incirlik Airbase

-Access and control to Syria

-Radar and other intel gathering equipment looking over Russia's belly and Middle East

-blocking Russian access to the Med

-human intelligence

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

NATO needs Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO. The country sits literally between Russia and the Middle-East, conveniently also managing Black Sea Fleet access to any other scenario.

I wouldn't bet on Turkey ever leaving or being kicked out.

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

I do. I think the answer is "never", or "not as a result of this government". When there are internal issues present, military is fragmented and may not act when needed, etc. - that's the time when NATO should be most useful and most needed. Otherwise you get a country which cannot really defend itself and announce to the world - yeah, we don't really care about them anyway. Speculation - would Ukraine get attacked l…

>>Speculation - would Ukraine get attacked last year if it was a full NATO member?

It would have already been attacked before that. That's actually why Ukraine was attacked in fact. Putin doesn't want NATO expanding up to Russia's doorstep.

I understand the Russian concern about NATO expansion even if I don't agree with their direct aggression.

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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Not sure what is going on. Dx cluster shows Turkish ham activity. sh/dx ta 14076.0 TA4SO 20-Jul-2016 2142Z 14019.9 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 2101Z 14072.0 TA7DX 20-Jul-2016 2038Z CQ...PSK31 10143.7 TA1CM 20-Jul-2016 1951Z 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1949Z tnx QSO 10143.7 TA1CM 20-Jul-2016 1949Z cq rtty 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1946Z Tnx for QSO 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1938Z 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1937Z TNX 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1934Z

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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post #6

This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

Unfortunately, the people of Turkey were going to be screwed no matter how the coup went. If it had succeeded, they would have got a military dictatorship. Now they get a different kind of dictatorship instead. Erdogan was slowly evolving into a dictator before the coup, and now he's accelerating that process. I wonder if the best outcome for democracy in Turkey would have been a attempted coup which resulted in Erdo…

> If it had succeeded, they would have got a military dictatorship.

That's not a given. Turkey's military has staged quite a few coups over the years and that's really part of their purpose in the Turkish government order. After a few years power usually transitions back to normal democratic elections.

Re: Turkish government revokes ham radio licenses

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post #3

From almost a democracy to world's second North Korea, virtually overnight. Impressive. But I also think this will backfire badly for Erdogan.

I agree... This is just a temporary thing for sure. NATO isn't too happy with the outcome of this, so I presume that something is going to come of that.
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