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Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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It's also gotten extremely buggy. Can't get reliably through firewalls anymore, constantly orders messages wrong or doesn't show messages that were sent by a different client (even though they were received by the other party correctly), has much worse voice quality than Whatsapp, can't handover between networks, takes ages to load on older iPhones, the list goes on. I'd move away to Whatsapp in a heartbeat if they o…

or they had a real desktop client.

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft. Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to…

did you try phoning/mailing support ?

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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I'm pretty certain that Microsoft already (mostly) made this backward-incompatible move several years ago, when they shut down the last of their (old Skype protocol)(MSNP24) gateways in 2014, so any Skype clients that predate the MSNP24 support being added to Skype no longer work.

The thing they're doing now is probably either breaking Skypeweb backward compat or a rev on MSNP, depending on which mechanism the embedded clients use. Quickly reading the actual blog post that the Ars article is about [1] (which I couldn't find an obvious link to in the article) makes me think it's probably Skypeweb they're breaking.

[1] - http://blogs.skype.com/2016/07/20/skype-the-journey-weve-bee...

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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It is pretty much assumed by almost everyone out there that Skype is fully under surveillance and intercepted. If you care in the slightest bit about security, don't use Skype. Other than that I find it useful for keeping in contact with friends and family. For gossip and inane chatter it works well.

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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Isn't the elephant in the room competing services : facetime, or facebook messenger, or whatever the google product is?

Which are all terrible in a business setting. Facebook is block at my employer, because most people doesn't seem to understand that they shouldn't be on Facebook during work hours. Also many companies doesn't exactly like it when you use a private account for business related communication. Google Hangout is just horrible, and not only because I'm require to have an Google account (and I'm NOT using person accounts f…

> Facebook is block at my employer, because most people doesn't seem to understand that they shouldn't be on Facebook during work hours.

Why is that? People's personal life doesn't disappear when they arrive to the office.

I've seen employers blocking services and getting a spike in productivity... for the next day - then people find something else to do when they need to get distracted, rest their mind, socialize, etc

Also, it's terrible to apply technical solutions to education issues. If your employees are spending way too much time on Facebook, first you need to have a conversation with each of the offenders, second you might want to look deeper into the issue as you might not be feeding them enough work to do. Your processes might be broken, so your supply chain and productivity would be impacted by design, not purely as a consequence of people slacking off :-)

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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What stable alternatives do we have for a pure P2P? Tox still doesn't persist group chats, yet. I hope someone will come up with an implementation of Riffle.

The recent introduction of WebRTC to browsers could throw Skype off its throne.

You pretty much just go on the webpage of such a WebRTC-service, start up a conversation, which generates you a link, then you send that link to your conversation partner and they just have to open this link in their browser to join the conversation.

That's so incredibly simple to use, that it should be much less of a problem to get people to use it instead of Skype.

And it's end-to-end-encrypted.

And for example Mozilla offers such a service (called Firefox Hello [0]) for free.

The only thing where Skype could compete here, is by offering services surrounding video calls, for example a contact list, file-sharing, support for businesses etc.

[0]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft. Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to…

I recently had to do that too :(. Lost around $5 of account balance.

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft. Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to…

> Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login.

No, I am using the same id since Skype started. Never linked it to a Microsoft account.

This is not a Microsoft endorsement since Skype works really bad.

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft. Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to…

This also happened to me with Hotmail and a few times with Xbox Live.

I haven't tried to log into Skype in years and I don't expect to start. Live ID is the worst thing that they've ever done.

Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room

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A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft. Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to…

Happened to me too. The Microsoft ID login method did eventually work for me but it was something like 2 hours lost over trying to get a new password through a Skype interface and website, which was a futile approach, at the time at least.
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