I would imagine Microsoft abandoned direct peer to peer communication because of patent trolling, just like Apple had to change Facetime to no longer support direct connections.
Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
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Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#12I'd really like to see a secure (-enough) video chat app which integrated well with mattermost & murmur/mumble (which I wish integrated really well with one another). It'd be even better were it end-to-end encrypted of course, and while I'd (of course) prefer excellent security, I'd be willing to trade a little of that for good-enough-to-resist-public-WiFi-threats.
Something like self-hosted Signal for video.
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#13Isn't the elephant in the room competing services : facetime, or facebook messenger, or whatever the google product is?
Which are all terrible in a business setting. Facebook is block at my employer, because most people doesn't seem to understand that they shouldn't be on Facebook during work hours. Also many companies doesn't exactly like it when you use a private account for business related communication. Google Hangout is just horrible, and not only because I'm require to have an Google account (and I'm NOT using person accounts f…
You can create a Google account just fine with your work email too. If Skype works for you that way there's no reason why using Hangouts has to be any different.
Here's where you can sign up: https://accounts.google.com/SignUp?hl=en
Click on the "I prefer to use my current email address" and you're good to go.
You don't have to use that account for anything else and the same thing about someone leaving the company holds true.
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#14Has anyone checked out Cisco Spark?
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#15what's happening lately with XMPP's Jingle? is that a viable alternative?
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#16Isn't the elephant in the room competing services : facetime, or facebook messenger, or whatever the google product is?
Which are all terrible in a business setting. Facebook is block at my employer, because most people doesn't seem to understand that they shouldn't be on Facebook during work hours. Also many companies doesn't exactly like it when you use a private account for business related communication. Google Hangout is just horrible, and not only because I'm require to have an Google account (and I'm NOT using person accounts f…
For me, google hangouts works much better than skype, especially with screensharing and group calls. Still far from perfect, though.
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#17what's happening lately with XMPP's Jingle? is that a viable alternative?
As long as both parties are using the Off-the-Record Messaging plugin[0], yes.
[0] https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/ or pidgin-otr in the package manager of your choice.
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#18A personal anecdote: I had the same account on Skype for most of the last 10 years. The same username. It was stable. Lots of people could contact me reliably. It was an account that was created long before Skype was bought by Microsoft.
Then came the update that they pushed out last year. Now everyone needed a Microsoft ID to login. There was some kind of "improvement" in the way authentication was done. So I had to reset my password. This lead me into a hellish 3 hour ordeal. None of the reset passwords worked. I went through the process 14 times. I would ask for a new password, I would get sent an email, I would click the link, I would end up being told I now had a Microsoft ID, I would try to use it with Skype, it would not work. I read the How To documents, I searched Google for others who might be having this problem. I tried variations in the way I was doing things.
In the end, I had to give up. There was absolutely no way to rescue the account that I had used for most of 10 years. I had to get a new account. I believe I had about 10 euros on the old account, which is now lost forever.
I am a professional computer programmer. If I can't figure out how to reset a password on Skype, then what are the chances that a less technical person can do it?
I remain a bit astonished at how bad that upgrade was.
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#19Not sure about that elephant. Anyone using Skype still assuming their conversation is secure and private, is exceedingly naive. Those who really need security and privacy, know not to use Skype.
>Those who really need security and privacy, know not to use Skype. Everyone needs security, and privacy. If you're a company, you need security and privacy, and most will just assume that Skype provides it. And for the most part Skype provides them with the security they need. Most of the users of Skype just needs protection from snooping competitors and Skype provides that to a sufficient extend. Honestly no one wi…
>If you're a company, you need security and privacy, and most will just assume that Skype provides it. And for the most part Skype provides them with the security they need. Most of the users of Skype just needs protection from snooping competitors and Skype provides that to a sufficient extend.
Aren't businesses supposed to use skype for business?
Re: Skype finalizes its move to the cloud, ignores the elephant in the room
#20Let's be a little more dramatic. Instead of reading into what they didn't say, what if you... asked them and reported on that.
I did ask them, and the post contains everything they had to say in response.