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Re: Yahoo misses profit expectations in what could be its last-ever earnings report

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Post by lsc » Wed, Jul 20, 2016, 7:16 AM UTC

chansecodina wrote: post #146

neotek wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much all of Apple's hardware is amazing. If you try and evaluate them on specs alone then sure, they fall short - less RAM in their phones, slower clock speeds, whatever - but the vast majority of people don't buy hardware because of its technical specs, they buy hardware because it looks gorgeous, makes them feel special, and performs the tasks they need it to perform. Nobody ever lined up for a week to buy a…

The key part phrase there is "[c]ompared to the ThinkPad of the day". IMHO, MacBooks and ThinkPads were nowhere near comparable in build quality until the the MacBooks went to unibody aluminum construction.

and they were only comparable then because lenovo seems bent on cheapening the ThinkPad.

Re: Yahoo misses profit expectations in what could be its last-ever earnings report

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Post by l33tbro » Wed, Jul 20, 2016, 8:47 AM UTC

jlgaddis wrote: post #112

l33tbro wrote: post #99

This is probably a really dumb question - but I have 17 years worth of Yahoo email. Most of it is for nostalgia, but how likely is it that this would be wiped away if/when Yahoo goes under?

The same question, from a different perspective: How likely is it that your mail would be kept (and remain accessible to you) if/when Yahoo! goes under? I think I'd start making a local backup/copy of it. Can you access it via IMAP? I'd recommend offlineimap or imapsync as starting points.

You can get via IMAP here:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html?impressions=true

... so going through those steps now.

Re: Yahoo misses profit expectations in what could be its last-ever earnings report

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Post by limeyx » Wed, Jul 20, 2016, 10:20 PM UTC

twblalock wrote: post #88

theli0nheart wrote: post #44

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That's only for ISOs, which are essentially deferred compensation. Getting paid in ISOs is functionally equivalent to taking an 83(b) election in that you're trading a risk of potential loss for the upside of only needing to pay long term capital gains tax.

You are confused. Exercise of incentive stock options (ISOs) is not a taxable event, although you may get hit with the AMT. Exercise of non-qualified options (NSOs) is a taxable event. For both types of options, the sale of the stocks at a later time is taxable.

^ - this.

Re: Yahoo misses profit expectations in what could be its last-ever earnings report

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Post by bsbechtel » Thu, Jul 21, 2016, 1:43 PM UTC

phamilton wrote: post #149

bsbechtel wrote: post #143

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This sounds reasonable, however that subsidy/gain is already paid for with the employee's labor, which cannot be recovered. Paying taxes on what is essentially a guaranteed gain sounds reasonable, but when it is a gain earned by putting in labor over several years, I'm not sure this is the best solution.

> subsidy/gain is already paid for with the employee's labor Salary is gain paid for with labor, and it is taxed. I'm not sure I follow your point.

Yes, salary is paid for with labor, but a reduced rate that is offset with compensation in the form of stock options. You're correct that it is taxed, and the capital gains rate is lower than the salary tax rate. My comment was more an observation, but the thought hadn't been fully fleshed out.

Re: Yahoo misses profit expectations in what could be its last-ever earnings report

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Post by tim333 » Sun, Jul 24, 2016, 5:28 PM UTC

imaginenore wrote: post #116

l33tbro wrote: post #99

This is probably a really dumb question - but I have 17 years worth of Yahoo email. Most of it is for nostalgia, but how likely is it that this would be wiped away if/when Yahoo goes under?

I doubt yahoo properties will just disappear. Too many users, too many ad views. They will likely be bought and supported. But it's a good idea to back up your email anyway.

I had a lot of discussion going back years on the Yahoo finance stock boards which used to be a bit like HN and they arbitrarily decided to delete them. I kind of gave up on Yahoo as a user after that.