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When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by gohrt »

dmix wrote: post #50

> Each volunteer was either holding a dead crow, standing near a dead red-tailed hawk—a crow predator—or standing near a dead red-tailed hawk holding the dead crow. I had to reread this about 5 times to make sense of it. Am I just tired from a long work day or is that a poorly phrase sentence?

holding a dead crow, standing near a dead hawk, or doing both at once.

Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by steveax »

A couple of years ago, near dusk, I heard a hell of a bird ruckus and went out to the front porch to have a look. What I saw blew me away: a young coyote was making haste down the middle of the street, ears down and tail between its legs being pursued by a very noisy aggressive murder of crows. They literally chased him out of the neighborhood.

Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by WalterBright »

zyxley wrote: post #24
adrianm wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any evidence this isn't fake?

Why are you assuming it's fake? "Crows and ravens can imitate human voices" is an established fact, not an unusual claim.

Quoth the raven "nevermore".

Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by helloworld9 »

Quote from the Quran 5:31 [1] "Then Allah sent a crow, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the dead body of his brother. 'Woe to me!' said he. 'Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?' Then he became full of regrets."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel_in_Islam

Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by jmnicolas »

sirtastic wrote: post #39

I believe ravens and crows are very similar, this is a personal (long, and not the great) story about a raven I messed around with in Yosemite National Park: When I was up on north dome (not to be confused with half dome) there was a group of raven's hanging out on the rocks watching us eat our late lunch. I had an apple core that I tossed to the side and watched as a raven warily tried to approach it. I walked over…

> and trying to mess with its little raven mind

don't you get that it was the raven that was playing with your little human mind ? ;-)

Re: When a crow dies, the other crows investigate the cause of death (2015)

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Post by danielbln »

sharkweek wrote: post #37

So fascinating! There is a young girl in Seattle who made friends with the local crows by feeding them, they soon were bringing her regular gifts in exchange for her snacks - http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31604026 I tried to do the same thing in my backyard for about three weeks until one day my wife caught me putting little pieces of bread on our porch railing. She asked what I was doing and I explained making fr…

To put the story you linked in context, it's less "little girl feeds a couple of crows" and more "large scale feeding operation" that pisses of the neighbors: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Neighbors-sue-to-stop...

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Post by efrafa »

adamnemecek wrote: post #4

If you find this interesting, you should really look into the intelligence of crows. They've been observed to remember human faces, wait on traffic lights, plan, and a whole bunch of things that are very impressive. And don't even get me started on _jackdaws_.

In Japan they use traffic lights to collect cracked nuts

https://youtu.be/BGPGknpq3e0

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Post by finid »

sirtastic wrote: post #39

I believe ravens and crows are very similar, this is a personal (long, and not the great) story about a raven I messed around with in Yosemite National Park: When I was up on north dome (not to be confused with half dome) there was a group of raven's hanging out on the rocks watching us eat our late lunch. I had an apple core that I tossed to the side and watched as a raven warily tried to approach it. I walked over…

What most people don't realize is that most live forms lower on the chain can read our minds. So if the crow's reaction was different based on what you wanted to throw, it's because it knew what you wanted to do before you did it.

It was reading your thoughts.

Dogs and cats do it too.

A few years ago I went to a farm to buy a goat. The younger goats did not know why I was there, but when an older goat saw me and our eyes met, it knew, and took off.

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