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Not sure where this "darling of the left" thing is coming from. Disliking both Gawker and Thiel is one thing that can unite us all.
> Disliking both Gawker and Thiel is one thing that can unite us all. Speak for yourself. I've nothing but respect for Thiel.
How does that work out? Isn't it a limited liability company? I know there's "piercing the corporate veil", but why would that apply in this case?
Denton was apparently named as a defendant in the lawsuit as well, and the court yielded a $10M judgment against him personally. Gawker also gave Denton a $200K personal loan right before bankruptcy for the purposes of potential bankruptcy filings related to the lawsuit; this might be a good case for piercing the corporate veil as well.
I think other comments here implying there's some looting going on are not quite on point.
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Denton was apparently named as a defendant in the lawsuit as well, and the court yielded a $10M judgment against him personally. Gawker also gave Denton a $200K personal loan right before bankruptcy for the purposes of potential bankruptcy filings related to the lawsuit; this might be a good case for piercing the corporate veil as well.
Is Denton a complete moron to think this was going to be OK. Given the way Gawker ran the court case the evidence is piling up that Denton is not the smartest tool in the shed.
A gay, foreign media magnate known for publishing lurid expose (in addition to a lot of excellent and funny reporting [1]) was never likely to receive sympathetic treatment from a jury of people from Hulk Hogan's hometown.
Let's see how things go on appeal.
[1] http://gawker.com/heres-what-gawker-media-does-1779858799
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The precedent isn't about the quality of your journalism, it's "get a billionaire angry, get sued into oblivion". That's what scares people. Mother Jones nearly faced the same fate for very good journalism.
Don't forget the part about publishing a sex tape without knowledge of the party involved. Mother Jones won their lawsuit, because the statements they published were both true and in the public interest. There is a very large difference between what Gawker did and what Mother Jones did, and the judgments reflect that.
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> fuck Peter Theil if he thinks setting a precedent like this is net good for anything other than his petty vendetta a precedent that if you engage in trashy tabloid "journalism" and egregiously invade people's privacy that you can end up sued into oblivion? Sounds like a perfectly reasonable precedent.
No, there is absolutely nothing illegal about trashy tabloid "journalism". Only the particular form of privacy invasion was at issue here.
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Gawker was guilty of illegally publishing a recorded sex tape. If I did this to someone I would go to jail. If Gawker didn't want to go bankrupt, then maybe it shouldn't have illegally recorded and published a sex tape. This is NOT just "poor taste shock journalism". Just like how setting up a hidden camera in a girl's high school locker room wouldn't just be "in poor taste".
> If Gawker didn't want to go bankrupt, then maybe it shouldn't have illegally recorded and published a sex tape. To be fair the sex tape was recorded by Hulk's best friend and husband of the woman he was having sex with. They knew a tape was being made. http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/12/media/hulk-hogan-gawker-sett... > Bubba Clem could be heard on the full tape saying that if he ever wanted to retire, he simply neede…
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It's amazing to see how the left latched onto this as a "billionaire buys lawsuit" narrative, as opposed to the much more accurate "shitty darling of the left that habitually engaged in abuse got its comeuppance" narrative. Gawker repeatedly, knowingly, unabashedly, broke the law. They repeatedly, knowingly, unabashedly, tried to ruin innocent people's lives. They absolutely deserve everything that happened to them a…
Darling of the left? Is that really how Denton has been described? I don't know anyone -- left or right -- who thinks Denton is anything more than a scumbag.
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The precedent isn't about the quality of your journalism, it's "get a billionaire angry, get sued into oblivion". That's what scares people. Mother Jones nearly faced the same fate for very good journalism.
It actually is about the quality of the journalism though, as the point was the "reporting" (gossip and 'mean girls'-esque harrassing) turned out to be illegal. Was Mother Jones accused of >illegal< reporting?
And remember, a legal victory isn't over until the appeals are complete. Gawker collapsed before exhausting its appeals--again, financial exhaustion, not moral defeat.
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It's amazing to see how the left latched onto this as a "billionaire buys lawsuit" narrative, as opposed to the much more accurate "shitty darling of the left that habitually engaged in abuse got its comeuppance" narrative. Gawker repeatedly, knowingly, unabashedly, broke the law. They repeatedly, knowingly, unabashedly, tried to ruin innocent people's lives. They absolutely deserve everything that happened to them a…
Is this some sort of gamergate leakage, that makes Gawker "left" because they are united with Kotaku, who gamergate hates, and social-justice fighers hate gamergate, and social-justic fighters are "left", so Gawker is "left"?
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> Disliking both Gawker and Thiel is one thing that can unite us all. Speak for yourself. I've nothing but respect for Thiel.
For what, his libertarian values? While backing Palantir and engaging in stuff like this?
Only the left has a problem with his support of Hogan, because it was an attack on your tribe. Stop assuming the rest of us share your outrage. We don't. Thiel essentially insured Hogan's lawsuit, so that Hogan could proceed without fear of losing millions in legal costs. That's it. Billionaire swoops in and enables aggrieved party to sue evil corporation for abominable behaviour. It's practically an Erin Brockovich story.