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My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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Sometimes I wonder if all of the online computers, internet, apps and other stuff makes any sense. We have complicated our lives unnecessarily and multiplied beyond the capacity of our plant to hold us meaningfully or have a life with any semblance of contemplation.

Without those things, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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post #7

Shouldn't rural farmers be making a killing in these conditions? (eg. give me USD or your old iPhone/car and I'll deliver you homemade milk and bread for X months)

well, if you read it....

> I head out early to a farmers’ market near my house. Before dawn each Saturday, the farmers truck in their produce from the surrounding mountains. Everything’s sold at free-market prices. This is, technically speaking, illegal but essentially goes unenforced nowadays.

Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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post #7

Shouldn't rural farmers be making a killing in these conditions? (eg. give me USD or your old iPhone/car and I'll deliver you homemade milk and bread for X months)

They probably have ways to divert some supplies to the black market, but most is seized by the military or outright stolen.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/13/venezu...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/crime-wave-lashes-venezuelas-alr...

Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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post #4

I highly recommend reading Life and Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng [0]. It's a factual, first-hand account of the China's Cultural Revolution and what living in a communist / socialist society is really like from an educated person's perspective. My inlaws escaped Saigon when it fell and say the picture is very accurate. The socialist downfall of countries are all unique, but follow similar paths. I encourage people…

I think we need to be more careful with our terminology than using the terms "communist" and "socialist" interchangeably. Presumably, the real problem we're talking about is state-controlled economies, regardless of the ideologies that set them up.

Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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Sometimes I wonder if all of the online computers, internet, apps and other stuff makes any sense. We have complicated our lives unnecessarily and multiplied beyond the capacity of our plant to hold us meaningfully or have a life with any semblance of contemplation.

What makes online computers & etc different? You could say that about many technologies, even about agriculture. Life was much simpler and sustainable when we were hunter-gatherers (I'm being sincere, not facetious). In my opinion, whether they are "necessary" is irrelevant (by objective measures, most things aren't) and simplicity is not a meaningful goal in itself.

Simpler, yes. But everyone lived near subsistence, and maximum population density was enforced by war, human sacrifice, and starvation.

Re: My Venezuela Nightmare: A 30-Day Hunt for Food in a Starving Land

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Sometimes I wonder if all of the online computers, internet, apps and other stuff makes any sense. We have complicated our lives unnecessarily and multiplied beyond the capacity of our plant to hold us meaningfully or have a life with any semblance of contemplation.

Isn't it inherent to your opinion that it doesn't necessarily apply to how other people feel, such that you can't actually use "we" in the way you used it?

As a species, we're drastically better off today than we have ever been. That includes calorie counts globally. The human population of earth has far more food than it needs. There are radically fewer famines today, not more.

The suffering that is happening in Venezuela wasn't caused by 'complications of modern life,' much less apps.

I completely disagree with the base premise, and do not believe our lives are more complex. I believe our lives are drastically simplified versus the concerns of just a few hundred years ago: near total lack of any rights, serious fear of starvation or exposure, constant war, a life filled with non-stop violence and death, almost total poverty, extreme majority illiteracy, constant risk of premature death by unknown illnesses, extraordinarily horrible hygiene and living standards, no stable / functional / trustworthy systems of savings or retirement (meaning a constant fear of not making it through the next year), and on it goes.

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