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Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by celticninja »

vacri wrote: post #221
toomanybeersies wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They can work and live in any country in the EU Brexit might well see to that one though. And working in Australia visa free isn't all sunshine and roses, you have to pay full Australian taxes, but get none of the benefits of being an Australian resident or citizen.

> but get none of the benefits of being an Australian resident or citizen. What, are you barred from going to the beach? :) Paying full host country taxes isn't a problem unless you're also paying home country taxes.

Which is only and issue if you are American.

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by 2skep »

girvo wrote: post #222
vacri wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's not really that much difference between AU and NZ, though it is weird to see that PNG requires a visa for AU, given that AU gives PNG a chunk of aid money.

You're right, there isn't, at least not in this nicely quantified way. Anecdotally, I've been treated much nicer on my NZ passport than my Australian one, even to the same countries (especially France, which I found curious).

Other Kiwis I know have reported receiving great treatment in France. Some have pointed out that they still feel a bit guilty about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by ragazzina »

umurkontaci wrote: post #45
msoad wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While a lot of people think what Trump said is extremely out of what United State legislators stand for, current Senate and President passed and signed HR-158[1] which bans European citizens that visited Iran, Syria and Iraq in past 5 years from getting into United States without a visa. This is going to apply to pretty much any dual citizen of Europe that visit their families back home in every couple of years. Obvi…

IANAL, but the bill sounds like it doesn't ban Europeans to enter the country, but waives the right to travel without a visa. It might be possible to enter U.S. by acquiring a visa.

This is correct. I am a European who visited Iran. Before that, I could travel to the U.S. with the ESTA (14$). Now I must ask for a B2 tourist visa, which is valid for 10 years and is multi-entry - but it costs ~160$ and it requires me to have an interview with the consul to prove that I am not going to just not fly back to my country and immigrate into the US permanently.

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by frobozz »

Mildly disappointed that this appears to only be a list of national passports.

It would be nice to see the World[1] and Sovereign Military Order of Malta[2] passports on here, as well as any others that I don't know about

That said, neither of them align well with the purposes of the company running the site - securing multiple citizenships for rich people.

The latter requires rather a lot of effort to get, as you need to work up to become one of the three senior officials of the order (which, I think, requires a vow of poverty).

The former costs as little as $55 for three years, and doesn't have any visa-free arrangements.

[1] http://www.worldservice.org/visas.html

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Ma...

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by dingo_bat »

tuna-piano wrote: post #34
hal9000xp wrote: post #28

I had citizenship of one most repressive and poor countries in the world - Uzbekistan. Later I obtained Russian citizenship. Now, I'm living in the Netherlands and plan to obtain citizenship of some first world country (NL, SG etc). So I have first hand experience to live with Uzbek passport and being practically completely isolated from the first world (nobody give you EU tourist visa if you have Uzbek passport and…

I've often thought of the dollar value of my US passport (/citizenship). It would definitely be my most valuable asset (then again, taxes are by far my biggest expense). Besides almost unrestricted travel - my income is far higher in the US than it would be in any other country I've looked at. It's easy to forget how lucky those of us in the developed world are and how so many try so hard to gain status here. Good lu…

> I hope someday you're able to get the US tourist visa to experience the joys of the US: Yosemite, NYC, Disney World and Taco Bell.

Just nitpicking but Taco bell has outlets all around the world. You don't need to visit the US for that.

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by StavrosK »

morgante wrote: post #207
StavrosK wrote: post #201

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Isn't that what most people think about their country? I think it's choice-supportive bias. I could be living in the US, but I think Greece is a better country, and I'm sure you think the opposite.

No, I think it can be objectively evaluated. I was born as an American citizen, but would probably prefer to be German (social benefits, EU access, etc.) or Emirati (a fantastic gravy train).

What, not Norwegian? They have the highest quality of life. Why not Nigerian? They have the highest life satisfaction rates!

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by ghshephard »

morgante wrote: post #203
chaostheory wrote: post #51

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Many countries in the Middle East still require exit visas. Dubai (UAE) is one of them

No, it's not. For citizens and expats it's ridiculously painless to enter/exit the UAE. Even as an American citizen with Global Entry, it's far easier to go in and out of the UAE than it is to enter/exit the USA. I assume you're referring to the controversial Kafala system which chiefly harms migrant workers. It does not, in fact, require that anyone receive an exit visa. The issue is primarily one of employers confi…

Agreed it's painless as an expat to exit - but, note that the United States doesn't have an Exit Process. UAE Does (at least in Dubai). I took an Exit-Enter-Trip to Oman every 30 days while working there to keep my Visa Status current. Pretty much the same as Singapore. (Though, in Singapore, if you overstay, it's prison and caning - for real. In Dubai I believe it's just a fine)

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by ForHackernews »

celticninja wrote: post #231
vacri wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but get none of the benefits of being an Australian resident or citizen. What, are you barred from going to the beach? :) Paying full host country taxes isn't a problem unless you're also paying home country taxes.

Which is only and issue if you are American.

The US has tax treaties with most countries to avoid dual taxation. You still have to file a return, but except in rare circumstances, you will never have to pay double taxes to both host country and home country.

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by guelo »

If I imagine a completely open world with no visas I think the "first world" would stop being desirable. USA and Europe would be flooded with hundreds of millions of people and would develop giant slums. It would be bad not only for the current people that live there but also for the people that currently want to move to a better place since there wouldn't be a better place to move to.

Re: Passport Index 2016

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Post by frobozz »

Tharkun wrote: post #213
mthoms wrote: post #169

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What a bizarre thing to wish to argue nuances about. I just thought the passport was neat, had cachet and I really like the idea of being a "Citizen of Earth". I'm actually sorry I even mentioned it. But since you wish to be pedantic: I said that holders don't require Visas in many countries - According to the second paragraph of the Wiki link there are at least 29 countries. This qualifies as many . I also said "You…

I don't think that qualifies as 'many', if you want to be pedantic. My Belgian ID card (not even a passport!) gives me visaless and pasportless access to 50 countries.. But I agree, it would be a very near passport to have, and I wish there really was such a thing as a 'citizen of earth'-passport.

There is: http://www.worldservice.org/docpass.html
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