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Cyberpower crushes coup

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Very interesting write-up. My concern with this coup is that the results of it failing are going to be worse for the Turkish people than if it had succeeded. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4t4ke5/pro_erdogan_is...

That's probably a risk in every coup attempt, though to be fair the results of this one failing probably won't be worse now than they would have been in centuries gone by.

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Very interesting write-up. My concern with this coup is that the results of it failing are going to be worse for the Turkish people than if it had succeeded. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4t4ke5/pro_erdogan_is...

My Turkish friend told me the Turks have been aware of attempts of destabilize their country. It was mostly the general population that came out and stopped the military coup.

The Turks don't want another Syria or Libia where western backed rebels have made those places no-go countries. Turkey at least has a very friendly and thriving tourism eco system.

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Even the though the Title is a bit more strong, the coup in turkey would be successful if the entire army acted in unison, its a faction of army that acted and they do not have good allies outside of it.

There are multiple factors here.

This is article does wear some rose colored glasses given the info sec background of the author about the prominence of cyberpower (he may have a point, but that is not primary point of failure).

Coups are possibly in modern day, take a look at Egypt.

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post #3

Very interesting write-up. My concern with this coup is that the results of it failing are going to be worse for the Turkish people than if it had succeeded. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4t4ke5/pro_erdogan_is...

There is a theory that Erdogan was aware of something like this and was prepared, let the military faction walk into honeytrap. Its a theory, but the purges that will happen in turkey, god bless them!

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Great article from Grugq. He's main focus is opsec if you don't know who he is.

I agree with most points and I'd say that simply cutting power to major cities in Turkey during this event could have changed the outcome. It would have provided a total communication blackout which would have neutralized social or 'cyber' as he calls it and would have created fear (more than pre internet because we're so reliant on it) which would have put the military in a position to 'restore order'.

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post #3

Very interesting write-up. My concern with this coup is that the results of it failing are going to be worse for the Turkish people than if it had succeeded. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4t4ke5/pro_erdogan_is...

My Turkish friend told me the Turks have been aware of attempts of destabilize their country. It was mostly the general population that came out and stopped the military coup. The Turks don't want another Syria or Libia where western backed rebels have made those places no-go countries. Turkey at least has a very friendly and thriving tourism eco system.

Erdogan has been destabilizing Turkey for years.

> Turkey at least has a very friendly and thriving tourism eco system.

The main airport was bombed in a terrorist attack this month.

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post #14
post #3

Very interesting write-up. My concern with this coup is that the results of it failing are going to be worse for the Turkish people than if it had succeeded. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4t4ke5/pro_erdogan_is...

There is a theory that Erdogan was aware of something like this and was prepared, let the military faction walk into honeytrap. Its a theory, but the purges that will happen in turkey, god bless them!

That's a very complicated honey trap to set up. And it's a failure on both the accounts that elected leaders should protect its people before things escalate and secondly elected leaders aren't supposed to set up trap like this in the first place.

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Some political analysts are saying that this coup was staged by Erdogan to get rid of the remaining opposition. Basically the theory is that there was a very weak plan in effect that the government knew about, and helped move it along (to get it started). While being completely prepared to deal with it. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/erdogans-counter-co...

Erdogan's faction seems to be tightening their grip, but they didn't have to stage the coup in order to know to exploit it. as the saying goes, "never let a crisis go to waste"

I haven't read that article, but it's zerohedge and so should be taken with a generous pinch of salt.

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This article (1) calls it "an attempt to grab the reins of a complex society with the almost quaintly antediluvian tactics of seizing the state television station and rolling some tanks on to the streets. It is as if the plotters had never heard of social media"

so what would be modern coup tactics? The medium article mentions that there are more communication channels that need seizing in order to be effective.

1) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/16/turkey...

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Sometimes with big political events one sees something that just does not sit right with one's overall understanding of events. If the events were a movie or teevee series you would consider these things to be flaws in the plot.

Initially I was open to the idea that the coup was what the mainstream media said it was, however, the internet has opened me up to the idea that the whole thing was staged. This analysis better fits my earlier private observation that things weren't quite what they seemed to be.

So, my thinking is that the new internet medium (new for coups) will work against the 'President' because word on the street will be that he faked the coup. This word on the street will be spread by internet and messenger chat. If this becomes all pervasive then the 'President' really does end up getting himself killed, his regime completely overthrown, game over. I also believe he is one of those leaders that the U.S. can let go of, Turkey may be NATO but the leader is interchangeable.

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