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Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by tdaltonc »

whack wrote: post #10

"Modern Turkey was founded by Mustafa Kemal, a general in the Turkish Army who was later formally granted the surname “Ataturk,” or father of the Turks. Ataturk set about an aggressive program of modernizing and “Westernizing” the country, pushing religion to the margins, banning certain apparel like headscarves and fezes, and converting Turkish from Arabic to Latin script. But that secularism has always remained ten…

But how do you make sure that the military has the right "fundamental principles"?

Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by atmosx »

whack wrote: post #10

"Modern Turkey was founded by Mustafa Kemal, a general in the Turkish Army who was later formally granted the surname “Ataturk,” or father of the Turks. Ataturk set about an aggressive program of modernizing and “Westernizing” the country, pushing religion to the margins, banning certain apparel like headscarves and fezes, and converting Turkish from Arabic to Latin script. But that secularism has always remained ten…

Democracy was attempted in Iraq? Is that Fox News?!

Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by scarmig »

Anyone have a take on how successful this is likely to be?

Both sides are claiming victory and that they've beaten the other side, naturally. Propaganda is everywhere.

The only thing I figure is that since Erdogan is calling for a mass uprising in the streets, the status quo has him losing. He needs to radically change the dynamics of the situation to stay in power, and mass protests and displays of martyrdom in the streets of Istanbul is the way to do it. Otherwise, if everything were under his control, he'd be encouraging people to stay inside while his forces stabilized the situation.

Is that a fair read of the situation?

Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

tdaltonc wrote: post #13
whack wrote: post #10

"Modern Turkey was founded by Mustafa Kemal, a general in the Turkish Army who was later formally granted the surname “Ataturk,” or father of the Turks. Ataturk set about an aggressive program of modernizing and “Westernizing” the country, pushing religion to the margins, banning certain apparel like headscarves and fezes, and converting Turkish from Arabic to Latin script. But that secularism has always remained ten…

But how do you make sure that the military has the right "fundamental principles"?

I don't think anyone is advocating military coups in the general case.

Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by tuna-piano »

Does anyone have an explanation, or a link to an explanation for all the happenings in Turkey? I'm an occasional follower of this kind of stuff, but it would be great to understand the full situation in Turkey in an easily digestible way.

1. The current coup

2. The president's history

3. The different terrorist groups operating within the country and their beliefs and goals

4. Turkey's legal system and freedoms allowed

5. Information on past coups

6. The general beliefs and sentiments among Turkish people

Edit: And a simple question that I'm sure is a complex answer: is this attempted coup bad or good for a peaceful free turkish people?

Re: Coup attempt underway in Turkey

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Post by dzdt »

scarmig wrote: post #15

Anyone have a take on how successful this is likely to be? Both sides are claiming victory and that they've beaten the other side, naturally. Propaganda is everywhere. The only thing I figure is that since Erdogan is calling for a mass uprising in the streets, the status quo has him losing. He needs to radically change the dynamics of the situation to stay in power, and mass protests and displays of martyrdom in the…

Its not even clear yet who the sides are. Erdoğan released a statement that Gülen supporters (a religious group) were behind the coup, while the military seems to be claiming it is a secular coup, and has not named a leader behind it.
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