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Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by seanwilson »

pjmlp wrote: post #57
seanwilson wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> i'm not. all of it makes me nervous. even package managers with supposedly cryptographically secure verification make me nervous. Android and Chrome for example are really ahead of this in my opinion. Apps are sandboxed and you know uninstall clears up traces of them. Obviously it's not perfect but it's miles ahead of installation scripts and binary installers which can do anything they want with your system and mi…

> Apps are sandboxed and you know uninstall clears up traces of them. Not in all versions of Android, if they write stuff on the SD card.

They might be able to write some files that sit around but not code that runs on startup and spies on you for example.

Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by slrz »

seanwilson wrote: post #49
beachstartup wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i'm not. all of it makes me nervous. even package managers with supposedly cryptographically secure verification make me nervous. but, you gotta do what you gotta do to actually do stuff. i sure as hell ain't going back to the days of compiling everything from source.

> i'm not. all of it makes me nervous. even package managers with supposedly cryptographically secure verification make me nervous. Android and Chrome for example are really ahead of this in my opinion. Apps are sandboxed and you know uninstall clears up traces of them. Obviously it's not perfect but it's miles ahead of installation scripts and binary installers which can do anything they want with your system and mi…

So how would you go about packaging this m-cli tool into a sandboxed app?

Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by paxswill »

therealmarv wrote: post #48
paxswill wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The basic command for keeping the machine awake is `caffeinate`, and has a few other nice options like changing what kind of sleep is prevented (disk, display, system) and also waiting on a PID (looks like that was added in 10.10). Related to that is `pmset -g assertions` which will list all the various things that are keeping your machine from sleeping.

strange, I always used `pmset noidle` instead of `caffeinate`. But seems it does the same. I somehow assumed `caffeinate` is the same as this app store thing called Caffeine.

Using `pmset noidle` is now deprecated in favor of `caffeinate` according to the pmset man page.

Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by JadeNB »

64bitbrain wrote: post #39

Does it need to be ran as root? Downloading m-cli from git to /usr/local fatal: could not create work tree dir '/usr/local/m-cli': Permission denied Failed to clone => https://github.com/rgcr/m-cli.git Off course it won't be able to access the /usr/local/

The README addresses this (with the somewhat elliptical "You need privileges"), and points out a work-around:

> You can also install it in a different path

    INSTALL_DIR=$HOME/.m-cli sh
> Note: You need privileges

Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by JadeNB »

curun1r wrote: post #33
Lio wrote: post #2

Not sure I like the install method. I'm nervous of anything that asks me to pipe curl to shell.

Also not to like about the install method: The install.sh stores INSTALL_DIR in a variable but does not allow that variable to be overridden by the environment. So you're forced to install into /usr/local despite then being asked to add /usr/local/m-cli to your path. It would be better to allow /usr/local to be overridden so that installation doesn't require sudo. It's just as easy to add ~/.m-cli to your path.

> The install.sh stores INSTALL_DIR in a variable but does not allow that variable to be overridden by the environment.

Really? The documentation explicitly says that it does:

    INSTALL_DIR=$HOME/.m-cli sh

Re: Show HN: Swiss Army Knife for Mac OS X

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Post by therealmarv »

paxswill wrote: post #63
therealmarv wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

strange, I always used `pmset noidle` instead of `caffeinate`. But seems it does the same. I somehow assumed `caffeinate` is the same as this app store thing called Caffeine.

Using `pmset noidle` is now deprecated in favor of `caffeinate` according to the pmset man page.

Good to know!
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