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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Anybody remember TermKit[0]? This was my first thought when I saw "JS/HTML/CSS Terminal". It was built on WebKit (five years ago, before the everything-in-JS craze really began) and had a lot of really promising features like smart MIME-type support... and then development sort of stopped. I'd love to see the concept revisited with present-day technologies and platforms. [0]: https://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/

Heh yes. There was also a mozilla XUL based terminal many years ago - can't remember the name though.

XMLterm

The only article about is that I've ever found or read is this one:

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2000/06/07/xmlterm/

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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It definitely looks cool, but may I ask what's the problem that is being solved here? Does it support tmux or at least window splits? Which problems does this solve that the regular Terminal didn't solve? I'm kind of lost here, "I need some fireworks while I type in my terminal" is not a problem that I have often to be honest.

my guess is "a terminal that a person who is more comfortable with html, js and css than bash will like" I must say, using basically a css stylesheet to control how your terminal looks and behaves does feel a lot more user friendly than a PS variable.

I just tried it, and yes, tmux works.

Also, it seems really fast. Liking it so far. Especially after iTerm versioning jumped the shark.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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What did you lose enthusiasm for? commando or HyperTerm? I've been toying with the idea of a "teaching terminal" for learning the command line as well, and building off of HyperTerm seems like a good approach.

A teaching shell might be more important. Something like what Reason does for OCaml, but done for the the unix command line. Use the model of something like is common with a lot of MUD clients, all text input occurs in a field at the bottom (look at tinyfugue). Below that have a set of autocomplete hints. This would be filled in based off of common usage, and knowledge of binaries avialable in the path, knowledge of…

`fish` shell works a little like this.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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My first reaction is: "This could be the VS Code of terminals". For those stuck on Windows, where the choice in terminals is pretty bad AND more and more Windows dev is done from the command line (hello 'dotnet'), this could be very welcome.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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post #68

Anybody remember TermKit[0]? This was my first thought when I saw "JS/HTML/CSS Terminal". It was built on WebKit (five years ago, before the everything-in-JS craze really began) and had a lot of really promising features like smart MIME-type support... and then development sort of stopped. I'd love to see the concept revisited with present-day technologies and platforms. [0]: https://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/

Everything-in-JS started more than five years ago. Nine years ago (almost to the day) Atwood formulated his law [0].

[0] https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-principle-of-least-power/

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did you lose enthusiasm for? commando or HyperTerm? I've been toying with the idea of a "teaching terminal" for learning the command line as well, and building off of HyperTerm seems like a good approach.

A teaching shell might be more important. Something like what Reason does for OCaml, but done for the the unix command line. Use the model of something like is common with a lot of MUD clients, all text input occurs in a field at the bottom (look at tinyfugue). Below that have a set of autocomplete hints. This would be filled in based off of common usage, and knowledge of binaries avialable in the path, knowledge of…

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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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the video is a bit silly in the end

It is outrageously silly but maybe that's the point - it carries a message that you can do whatever you want with it (and implies - without much effort, if you can do silly things like this). There is unexplored area sitting just right there. Imagine having easy access to ncurses replacement, jupyter kernels like output from any of your "console" tools - that would be awesome.

> It is outrageously silly but maybe that's the point

exactly, I don't understand the downvotes. The parts I saw however, didn't show what you wish for.

The video doesn't seem to have a slider, but click to skip or some. A visual indicator would be nice.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

A very similar name for a product sitting in the same space (terminal emulator). That's generally an unwise decision as it can create confusion for both projects, and the one with the trademark (especially since this new one's name is a substring of the older project) is in a position to make a valid claim against the new project. If someone created a new project called Steem to deliver video games to end users[, wou…

> if Valve took issue

isn't it true that companies have to take issue, otherwise they lose their trademark? I used to be angry when large corporations would sue a little guy or nonprofit over name squabbles, but then I heard that the big company can lose their trademark if they dont.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A very similar name for a product sitting in the same space (terminal emulator). That's generally an unwise decision as it can create confusion for both projects, and the one with the trademark (especially since this new one's name is a substring of the older project) is in a position to make a valid claim against the new project. If someone created a new project called Steem to deliver video games to end users[, wou…

> if Valve took issue isn't it true that companies have to take issue, otherwise they lose their trademark? I used to be angry when large corporations would sue a little guy or nonprofit over name squabbles, but then I heard that the big company can lose their trademark if they dont.

That's my understanding as well, yes.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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My first reaction is: "This could be the VS Code of terminals". For those stuck on Windows, where the choice in terminals is pretty bad AND more and more Windows dev is done from the command line (hello 'dotnet'), this could be very welcome.

Microsoft announced support for Linux/Unix tools in Windows 10 awhile back. You can get bash if you want.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about

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