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Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by planteen »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #82

Everyone should occasionally use Google Takeout to back up their stuff, but non-tech users don't understand this. I use my own domain and private email service but I do run my blog on blogger. But, I have done the experiment of converting Google Takeout data for my blog and hosting it on my own server. My default is to use blogger because I like how comments are handled. Services that Google and Facebook provide can…

I had no idea Google Takeout existed. Thanks. I backed up my Gmail over IMAP in the past but this looks far easier.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by a3n »

discordianfish wrote: post #138
andrey_utkin wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need to follow Richard Stallman in his obsession with ehtics. "Sorry mate, I find FB/Google/Skype/etc. unethical, so I won't get in touch with you using this, let's better stick with email, phone call or meeting in person".

Which is, maybe, the reason nobody knows or cares about Richard Stallman and his ideas beyond us tech folk.

That is a dilemma, isn't it? I also don't think it's the most useful or practical way to accomplish a goal.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by pjc50 »

a3n wrote: post #71

The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that's a sensible practice. But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man's identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication. That person…

> Using your own domain is not absolute protection, because you don't really own your domain, you rent it.

Good point; your domain can be seized for various sorts of percieved IP violation.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by pjc50 »

__b__ wrote: post #135
daenney wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you'd need to get is provider independent (PI) address space and you're not going to get that, at least not for v4, as an individual, anymore. You're then going to have to find someone that will announce that prefix for you (Amazon could) or do that yourself (which also means getting an AS number and peering with people at internet exchanges, assuming you can get away with that without also getting some paying t…

I only meant "renting" a reachable IP from some third party. I think that's realistic. However what you describe -- building out your own infrastructure -- still remains a lofty but worthy endeavor for anyone with the skills and determination.

No, third parties can change your IP address on fairly short notice (days or weeks) for their own reasons. And of course you can't change provider without changing IP either.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

daveloyall wrote: post #115
leephillips wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brilliantly said. I think everyone, unless they intend to be a digital hermit, should have his or her own personal domain. I know people are not routinely educated about these things, and that is a problem; but when an otherwise serious person tells me that his email address is joe12345@stupidmail.com, a red flag about his competence is raised somewhere in the back of my mind, at least.

Probably instead of a domain, it should be a private key. Generated at the time your birth certificate is.

Would be able to generate keys now that will be secure for a whole lifetime? For anyone older than about 40, even state-of-the-art crypto from the time of their birth has been broken. Will modern crypto hold up any better?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by losvedir »

DavidWanjiru wrote: post #139

When my brother died in 2010, I posted to that effect on Facebook. Many friends (majority of them "real life," pre-Facebook/outside of Facebook friends) gave their condolences. Others called me. A few messaged me, etc. You get the picture. That correspondence was, and remains, important to me. Does Facebook own it? Can they delete it if they want to? Can they block me from accessing it? The answer, at least as far as…

> the law, I feel, will have to change

What is a reasonable law that won't, say, make services like Snapchat illegal (which many people seem to find useful)?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by jshevek »

DavidWanjiru wrote: post #139

When my brother died in 2010, I posted to that effect on Facebook. Many friends (majority of them "real life," pre-Facebook/outside of Facebook friends) gave their condolences. Others called me. A few messaged me, etc. You get the picture. That correspondence was, and remains, important to me. Does Facebook own it? Can they delete it if they want to? Can they block me from accessing it? The answer, at least as far as…

Imagine how much better the world would be if a majority of people took the time to think about these issues as you have AND were also willing to simply boycott facebook until the ToS were changed.

This level of personal responsibility would be much better, IMO, than falling back on the government to coerce facebook into better behavior.

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Post by lmm »

a3n wrote: post #106
daenney wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you'd need to get is provider independent (PI) address space and you're not going to get that, at least not for v4, as an individual, anymore. You're then going to have to find someone that will announce that prefix for you (Amazon could) or do that yourself (which also means getting an AS number and peering with people at internet exchanges, assuming you can get away with that without also getting some paying t…

So the intent of the meta-domains I mentioned in my original might be better served by a personal IPv6 block, that doesn't come from a corporation's reserved blocks. Just as I move my domain around between email (and other) providers, I could then move my IPv6 block around. Instead of asking Linode for an IP address out of their block, I could tell them "serve this block." (Or can we already do that? For a reasonable…

IP addresses are meant to be addresses; if you move your address around everyone else has to update their routing tables. To do what you want you probably want to get your own AS Number and actually participate in routing (BGP etc). I've heard of quite small businesses doing that, but not individuals.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by a3n »

arundelo wrote: post #161
a3n wrote: post #71

The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that's a sensible practice. But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man's identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication. That person…

I've had my own domain for quite a while and have been meaning to start using an email address on that domain. The main reason I haven't is that I'm procrastinating the initial trouble of setting it up, but I'm also a bit scared from hearing stories of people who do this and then occasionally have email to them or from them bounce or disappear. (Maybe this is not as common a problem as I get the impression it is.) Ed…

I have a domain, serviced by a registrar. When I change email providers, I go to the registrar's site and point my email address at my new provider. That might take a little time (way less than a day, by observation) to propagate. I then go to my new provider and set things up to "send mail as me@mydomain." If you run a local client like Thunderbird (rather than run exclusively through your provider's web interface), then you'll need to do similar there (like point it at your provider's smtp and imap/pop3 servers).

Problems arise when you run your own server, because of fairly detailed authentication settings. If you pay a provider to run their servers, they take care of that.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by xigency »

nl wrote: post #27
amelius wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the internet archive's "way-back-machine" has a backup?

Do people even read the posted articles at all?! From the article: Cooper should’ve backed his work up, or known to be more cautious with drafts. ... ... Admittedly, not everything has vanished. The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine has saved bits and pieces of Cooper’s blog dating back to January 3, 2012, but they are just snapshots of the blog’s front page for a given date, not capturing the blog in its entirety.

Probably not a backup of his email though!
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