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Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by a3n »

Arnt wrote: post #116
leonroy wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fully agree with your comments, but I fear we're going in the wrong direction with the silo-ization of the web and the decline in open standards being ratified and used by large companies. Just look at Google's hostility towards maintaining standardized IMAP/SMTP support for third party mail clients. Google Apps and Office 365 would drop IMAP access to their services in a heartbeat if they could. Furthermore a lot of…

Hm, I've spoken to gmail's lead developer for imap many times over the years and never detected even a hint of hostility. What have I missed?

He doesn't run the business, just the pipes.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by emodendroket »

raverbashing wrote: post #85
reitanqild wrote: post #76

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For all autistic people: this is not being autistic, I guess maybe sometimes arrogant, sometimes dumb (as an organisation) or rather "too big" for our own good would be better descriptions. But at least not autistic, and definitely not with a follow up where that is used as an excuse for not feeling sorry for them. :-/

Do you think I really should feel sorry for a megacorp that can't be bothered to treat their customers like human beings? I do feel sorry for autistic people, though.

I'm pretty sure that the intended message was that we should not associate poor customer service with autism and then tar autistic people for whatever Google decides to do.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by emodendroket »

icefo wrote: post #118
ungzd wrote: post #100

If it's really due to some kind of erotic pictures, then I don't understand why often american companies like Google act like iranian. Is there any laws in USA that allows to punish Google for hosting images of woman nipples? Why both App store and Google play's TOS include sins from Old Testament?

I've heard that ad companies don't like to mix ads and boobies but I have no idea why.

I'm guessing because associating your product with porn works like associating it with charity in reverse.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

corobo wrote: post #15
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #11

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At least the article opens with the conclusion, saves scrolling. Having said that, I did continue scrolling and the article goes on to say > More generally, relying on the internet as an archive is dangerous. And it is, at least, another point toward helping me feel vindicated for being that person who always says "and you have off site backups for when your house burns down, right?"

Definitely feel vindicated, it's the 3-2-1 rule 3 copies 2 different forms of media 1 offsite

Can you qualify what "2 different forms of media" means? I'm assuming one physical, one cloud. Do you consider two separate external HDD's with the data on it to fail that test because they are the same form?

When my music collection was smaller, I had everything backed up onto an external as well as had them all physically burned onto like 50 DVDs. Since my collection has grown beyond a terabyte, however, I haven't had the time or energy to keep that up. Now it's just an external, a travel external, a redundant external, and a cloud backup.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Arnt wrote: post #116
leonroy wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fully agree with your comments, but I fear we're going in the wrong direction with the silo-ization of the web and the decline in open standards being ratified and used by large companies. Just look at Google's hostility towards maintaining standardized IMAP/SMTP support for third party mail clients. Google Apps and Office 365 would drop IMAP access to their services in a heartbeat if they could. Furthermore a lot of…

Hm, I've spoken to gmail's lead developer for imap many times over the years and never detected even a hint of hostility. What have I missed?

His/her superiors.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by eplanit »

More accurately stated: Artist stores (the sole copy of [1]) a decade of work on a service he doesn't pay for and which provides no guarantees of service or quality... Why is the title written to make it seem it was Google that did something wrong here?

[1] Quote from the article: To make matters worse, Cooper says that the work on the blog was only on the blog.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by reitanqild »

progman wrote: post #105
leephillips wrote: post #89

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Brilliantly said. I think everyone, unless they intend to be a digital hermit, should have his or her own personal domain. I know people are not routinely educated about these things, and that is a problem; but when an otherwise serious person tells me that his email address is joe12345@stupidmail.com, a red flag about his competence is raised somewhere in the back of my mind, at least.

Personal domains won't help you if the state releases laws which enables providers to silence whole domains against unwanted opinions. What we need is a new decentralized Internet. We need not only open source software (for security reasons), not only open hardware (for security reasons) but also a new open non-commercial Internet which cannot be censored.

> but also a new open non-commercial Internet which cannot be censored.

Why does it need to be non-commercial?

Personally I see commercial (with healthy competition) as a good sign that something will stick around for a while.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by daenney »

a3n wrote: post #106
daenney wrote: post #101

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What you'd need to get is provider independent (PI) address space and you're not going to get that, at least not for v4, as an individual, anymore. You're then going to have to find someone that will announce that prefix for you (Amazon could) or do that yourself (which also means getting an AS number and peering with people at internet exchanges, assuming you can get away with that without also getting some paying t…

So the intent of the meta-domains I mentioned in my original might be better served by a personal IPv6 block, that doesn't come from a corporation's reserved blocks. Just as I move my domain around between email (and other) providers, I could then move my IPv6 block around. Instead of asking Linode for an IP address out of their block, I could tell them "serve this block." (Or can we already do that? For a reasonable…

Yet with only a personal IPv6 block half the world can't access your resources so that's not a reasonable method at this time.

If you control the DNS there's no real need for owning your own IP addresses as you can just change what they point to. That's usually also much faster to do in a pinch than find a new party that will announce your block and convince the old one to stop doing so. That's usually hours if not days in lead time.

Though if you truly care enough about it you'll also want your own DNS servers and own gTLD in order to own the whole chain.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by Arnt »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #126
Arnt wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, I've spoken to gmail's lead developer for imap many times over the years and never detected even a hint of hostility. What have I missed?

His/her superiors.

Aren't you saying that despite the observable part of the moon being rock, the unobservable part is cheese?
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