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If they don't check out https://www.nitrous.io/ - Similar to Cloud9 and was huge for me when I started learning.
Also worth a look depending on your needs: https://codenvy.com/ (based on open source eclipse che IDE) http://www.koding.com/ (easy hybrid local IDE and/or cloud IDE integration)
Seems like a smart move by Amazon if they integrate cloud9 as a standard service. I liked Google's web based IDE when I was a contractor there and for about a year I experimented with using nitrous.io. Right now I am experimenting with using codeanywhere pointed at my own large server instance. It is tremendously convenient having one development environment set up that can be accessed from all of my devices. Hopeful…
none of these Cloud IDEs support docker-based projects, at least for now. that's a bummer for me. I spent a whole week trying Cloud9, Nitrous and Eclipse-che. Pros: good for teaching, colaboration, toy projects. Cons: still a few years behind any decent IDE.
I am the Che project lead.
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The nicest thing about Cloud9 is being open source you can install it on your own hardware so those VMs don't have to be remote.
Unless something has changed since last year, it is not truly "open source" if you're going by the Open Source Initiative's definition of "open source". Evidently there are a number of restrictions placed on the source code that prevent this from being the case. There was a Reddit discussion about it at the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2vvs7i/cloud9_...
C9 is my favorite web IDE. Being open source made it so much better than their competitors because you could install it locally to take advantage of your own hardware. It's really cool that they got acquired vs the fleet of mostly proprietary alternatives.
I tried looking at the github project - can you self-host it in the sense that you could set it up on a server in your home, and use it without needing access to the Internet? I suppose it might be more clear if I install and run the "core" - but there was no mention of docker or vm support, nor root access?
https://github.com/benlowry/chromeos-dev-setup/blob/master/s...
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> But if most new programmers prefer browsers, then that's what they are going to use... If most new programmers prefer to edit code in browsers than in editors, then they are just wrong. I don't know why the preferences of new programmers should matter to professionals any more than the preferences of peewee football players matter to the NFL. The whole point of education is to improve people, not leave them satisfi…
> Anyone who prefers JavaScript to Lisp or SmallTalk is just wrong. I also happen to share that opinion, but the trick is to avoid falling into the Smug Lisp Weenie trap. It is amazing how primitive most editors are in comparison to Emacs. However, what is also amazing is how fast they are progressing. I've been trying (of all things!) Atom, and it is already adequate for most folks. Just the other day I've overhead…
Yeah, I know — that's why I included a shoutout to SmallTalk, another great language. There are any number of truly great languages out there (ML, Erlang also leap to mind), although not all of them are great for writing a great editor.
It's hard to avoid being a Smug Lisp Weenie when one sees so much effort wasted on haphazardly reinventing stuff which has been working well for decades elsewhere. Why not spend a few hours or weeks improving what is already great rather than spending years building something new which will probably never be great?
It's probably the thing which makes me most bitter about our profession: the amount of sloppy and wishful thinking, which includes ignoring the numerous lessons of the past. Can you imagine where automotive technology would be if every new engineer spent the first decade of his career playing with rubber trees and ore trying to develop tyres and engine-suitable alloys rather than building on over a century of experience of others?
What's really weird is that there's so much new territory to explore in our field. We're spending entire careers re-exploring our own backyards when there's an entire continent out there to discover.
One step closer to just Code And Run (CAR). I think CAR is how development will be done in the future. (Literally tomorrow)
Oh ok... I'll check back in an hour :)
I really hope that the Cloud9 service keeps running, and maintains the free version that it currently provides. I have been using Cloud9 with the Michael Hartl Rails Tutorial to teach new programmers the basics of programming with Ruby and Rails and it has greatly reduced the friction for them to start learning. In previous classes we had the students setup a Ruby and Rails environment on their own systems and not on…
the free version EC2's t2.nano, at 0.6 cents per hour, is incredibly close to free. (And that's not even counting the 12 month 'free tier'.)