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Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Here is a one-click service to backup everything in your google account. Email, google drive, youtube, location history, blogger blogs, bookmarks, calendar, literally ever google service. https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout

What format does this produce? A bit of googling suggests mbox. What happens to 'labels' on emails?

MBOX is correct. Labels become folders. Mail that has multiple labels will be duplicated into each folder.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Everyone should occasionally use Google Takeout to back up their stuff, but non-tech users don't understand this.

I use my own domain and private email service but I do run my blog on blogger. But, I have done the experiment of converting Google Takeout data for my blog and hosting it on my own server. My default is to use blogger because I like how comments are handled.

Services that Google and Facebook provide can be useful, but I view that as a small add-on to my own web properties.

Edit: I also find it convenient to sometimes use gmail, but my important personal and business email goes through a separate service that I pay for.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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I started archiving all my emails a long while back. There are several good tools around, but I'm currently using offlineimap[1][2]. Easily installable via homebrew. [1]: http://www.offlineimap.org/ [2]: https://github.com/OfflineIMAP/offlineimap

I started deleting my emails and I feel really better that this big stack of crap is erased forever. The whole concept of archiving mail is disgusting. Everybody is concerned by climate change, but seriously, storing all these data is crazy and dirty, a datacenter is everything but clean. No backups to deal with and no procrastination-until-the-end-of-your-life. Save the planet and get away from your past.

I have two decades of email saved; it's a few gigabytes and could fit on a single USB stick or DVDW.

I happen to like my past and want to keep it, even if I don't habitually refer to it.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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concerning to say the least considering every galaxy/Android phone I've owned backs up to google in such a seamless & effortless way. My wife backs up all our family photos to google. Google offers "Unlimited free storage" if you allow them to compress your photos. https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6220791?hl=en It's hard to convince people, like my wife, that putting a NAS appliance in the house and explainin…

A good case for "yes, and"; backing up to the cloud is convenient and subject to very different failure modes to local storage. Why not both?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Given that Google's customer support has autistic tendencies to put it mildly, I do not feel sorry for them

For all autistic people: this is not being autistic, I guess maybe sometimes arrogant, sometimes dumb (as an organisation) or rather "too big" for our own good would be better descriptions. But at least not autistic, and definitely not with a follow up where that is used as an excuse for not feeling sorry for them. :-/

Do you think I really should feel sorry for a megacorp that can't be bothered to treat their customers like human beings?

I do feel sorry for autistic people, though.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Why did Google take him down with (presumably) no warnings? Or did they? Can't Google (and others) program their bots to send a warning like "we have received complaints about x. You have 14 days to resolve". The nuclear option seems quite abrupt/harsh/final. Edit: Clarity

This is a new age in customer support, if you can call it that. Amazon and I'm sure many other companies do the same thing. You don't even have to actually violate TOS. That's probably why no one can reverse the decision. They'd have to admit to closing the account on a whim (might be a bot's whim, but it's still a whim), unrelated to any actual TOS violations. They can choose to not do business with you anytime, even if you've paid them, and your only recourse is to sue them. Yeah, that's going to work out well ...

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that's a sensible practice. But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man's identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication. That person…

Better way to put this is to pay for the service if you're relying on it as a source of income or advertising yourself to the world.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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post #71

The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that's a sensible practice. But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man's identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication. That person…

Namecoin is a little more censorship resistant.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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post #71

The hindsight-prescriptive comments here focus on backing up, and that's a sensible practice. But there was another kind of damage done here, to the man's identity, location and voice. His blog and his email address were his public persona. He used his blog and his address as identity, and as his channel of communication with followers, other artists, and I assume most of his general online communication. That person…

Brilliantly said. I think everyone, unless they intend to be a digital hermit, should have his or her own personal domain. I know people are not routinely educated about these things, and that is a problem; but when an otherwise serious person tells me that his email address is joe12345@stupidmail.com, a red flag about his competence is raised somewhere in the back of my mind, at least.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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There is a certain feeling of frustration that comes from doing an unfamiliar and difficult technical task when you aren't at all used to doing such things. My wife's best explaination of it is that it feels like gears in your mind are grinding without oil: not moving smoothly and generating a lot of heat. I infer that many other people feel this way about web hosting, or services like weebly would not exist. The rea…

But perhaps if your whole goal is to be a "web artist" or however you define what he was doing, you might take the time to learn how to make a simple site.

And maybe if your actual work is keeping you busy, you might not want to have to deal with all that on top of it.
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