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Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by lorenzhs »

M4v3R wrote: post #39
elmar wrote: post #5

One click and you have a backup... https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout

The article says they've taken down his email address, so presumably he doesn't have access to that page as well.

I think the GP meant to say that you can prevent future damage to some extent through regular backups. When things have already gone wrong, it's too late to start making backups. The cloud is no different from physical media in that regard, even if the data still exists in some data centre, you can't access it any more.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by therealmarv »

vertis wrote: post #20
corobo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admittedly email has also been in my blind spot too.. Not a bad plan that.

I started archiving all my emails a long while back. There are several good tools around, but I'm currently using offlineimap[1][2]. Easily installable via homebrew. [1]: http://www.offlineimap.org/ [2]: https://github.com/OfflineIMAP/offlineimap

this looks interesting. Does it also restore to another IMAP provider?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by _Understated_ »

Why did Google take him down with (presumably) no warnings? Or did they?

Can't Google (and others) program their bots to send a warning like "we have received complaints about x. You have 14 days to resolve".

The nuclear option seems quite abrupt/harsh/final.

Edit: Clarity

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by sandij »

Bromskloss wrote: post #29
soft_dev_person wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They closed his email-account too, though? It has never occurred to me to backup my entire Gmail archive. Should probably look into that now...

Speaking of that, what is the best way to make a backup of the contents of an email account (not specifically Gmail, but IMAP in general)?

An easy way is to use an IMAP client like the macOS Mail.app that syncs raw email + metadata in .mbox format. You can find the files in ~/Library/Mail/V4. Combine with Time Machine for extra backups in case you’re worried that your mail server decides to clear your local copy over IMAP.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by Sidnicious »

lorenzhs wrote: post #41
M4v3R wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says they've taken down his email address, so presumably he doesn't have access to that page as well.

I think the GP meant to say that you can prevent future damage to some extent through regular backups. When things have already gone wrong, it's too late to start making backups. The cloud is no different from physical media in that regard, even if the data still exists in some data centre, you can't access it any more.

I'm not aware of any tool to automate regular backups of cloud services, even though many of them have “download everything” buttons like this now (awesome). That sounds like a thing that should exist.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by ableal »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #14
talideon wrote: post #6

Never be a sharecropper, always have backups.

What is the meaning of 'sharecropper' in this context? I'm aware of sharecropping in the agricultural sense[1]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharecropping

Tim Bray, many moons ago: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/07/12/WebsThePl...

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Post by avtar »

therealmarv wrote: post #42
vertis wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started archiving all my emails a long while back. There are several good tools around, but I'm currently using offlineimap[1][2]. Easily installable via homebrew. [1]: http://www.offlineimap.org/ [2]: https://github.com/OfflineIMAP/offlineimap

this looks interesting. Does it also restore to another IMAP provider?

mbsync [1] is worth looking into. I found it to perform better than Offline IMHO and complained less. It will store downloaded emails in maildir format.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Isync

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

#49

Post by zby »

Since a few years loggin into Blogspot (former Blogger) became very difficult for me - I am constantly being bounced between the authentication pages, and most of the time I end up with an error. I think Google is just preparing for discontinuing it.
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