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Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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>Early last year Andy Baio wrote about how most of the archival projects Google touted in the early 2000s, such as Google News Archive and Google Groups, were quietly abandoned several years ago. Uh, aren't Google News Archive and Google Groups still alive and well?

In the sense that Google Groups has been "well" since the current design went live. It's a slow, buggy, frustrating product.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Summary of the article > It’s gone because it was kept entirely on his blog Take backups.

At least the article opens with the conclusion, saves scrolling. Having said that, I did continue scrolling and the article goes on to say > More generally, relying on the internet as an archive is dangerous. And it is, at least, another point toward helping me feel vindicated for being that person who always says "and you have off site backups for when your house burns down, right?"

That reminds me of my first job (late 70's)where one of the project leads was paranoid about losing data from experiments (eficiny of mixing in tanks)

He had 2 copies on floppy two on disk (in a separate building) and another set at home on floppy's

That's why in 1979 I used to by 8 inch floppy's in multiples of thousands

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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post #3

Summary of the article > It’s gone because it was kept entirely on his blog Take backups.

At least the article opens with the conclusion, saves scrolling. Having said that, I did continue scrolling and the article goes on to say > More generally, relying on the internet as an archive is dangerous. And it is, at least, another point toward helping me feel vindicated for being that person who always says "and you have off site backups for when your house burns down, right?"

Not that people ever listen. Backups are perhaps a lot like basic insurance in that way. In a lot of countries basic health and liability insurance policies are mandatory because a sizeable chunk of the population would refuse to have these without that requirement, even though it benefits the vast majority of people.

Silly if you consider how from a technical and practical standpoint nothing prevents you from carrying a backup of every important document you've ever owned and a good deal of photos and such with you in your wallet on an encrypted mini-SD-card. Wallet gets stolen? Make a new backup. House burns down? You have your backup. Drop off a card at friends or family, keep one at your employer, hell, stick them on the Christmas cards you send out each year to your nearest and dearest; with proper encryption you are the only one able to use them anyway.

It also doesn't help that people blindly trust the big tech companies to do this for them.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least the article opens with the conclusion, saves scrolling. Having said that, I did continue scrolling and the article goes on to say > More generally, relying on the internet as an archive is dangerous. And it is, at least, another point toward helping me feel vindicated for being that person who always says "and you have off site backups for when your house burns down, right?"

Definitely feel vindicated, it's the 3-2-1 rule 3 copies 2 different forms of media 1 offsite

Does three copies include the original?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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post #24
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Summary of the article > It’s gone because it was kept entirely on his blog Take backups.

Perhaps the internet archive's "way-back-machine" has a backup?

Do people even read the posted articles at all?!

From the article:

Cooper should’ve backed his work up, or known to be more cautious with drafts. ... ... Admittedly, not everything has vanished. The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine has saved bits and pieces of Cooper’s blog dating back to January 3, 2012, but they are just snapshots of the blog’s front page for a given date, not capturing the blog in its entirety.

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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This January 2016 crawl of the homepage at the WayBackMachine does show an adult content warning so presumably, that (the adult content) was not in violation of Google's TOS at least at that point in time:

http://web.archive.org/web/20160125091732/http://denniscoope...

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Summary of the article > It’s gone because it was kept entirely on his blog Take backups.

They closed his email-account too, though? It has never occurred to me to backup my entire Gmail archive. Should probably look into that now...

Speaking of that, what is the best way to make a backup of the contents of an email account (not specifically Gmail, but IMAP in general)?

Re: Google deletes artist’s blog, a decade of his work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They closed his email-account too, though? It has never occurred to me to backup my entire Gmail archive. Should probably look into that now...

Speaking of that, what is the best way to make a backup of the contents of an email account (not specifically Gmail, but IMAP in general)?

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