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Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by e12e »

benologist wrote: post #132

C9 is my favorite web IDE. Being open source made it so much better than their competitors because you could install it locally to take advantage of your own hardware. It's really cool that they got acquired vs the fleet of mostly proprietary alternatives.

I tried looking at the github project - can you self-host it in the sense that you could set it up on a server in your home, and use it without needing access to the Internet?

I suppose it might be more clear if I install and run the "core" - but there was no mention of docker or vm support, nor root access?

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by superuser2 »

tedmiston wrote: post #187
hyperdeficit wrote: post #168

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This is also a reason that Cloud9 makes sense for us. The group I work with is focused on teaching programming to people who aren't traditionally represented in software development and sometimes they don't even have their own computers and have had to borrow a computer from a friend to do the work. With Cloud9 they can develop on any computer they have access to, whether their's, a friend's, or even one at the publi…

^ This is a great point. I've run into the use case while traveling abroad where I don't have a computer (out of paranoia / lack of security). Internet cafés are everywhere but setting up the perfect dev environment takes so long... so far it's made development fairly impractical, especially because they're often very old Windows machines. I've had good experiences with C9 so far, though I'd like to see how it pans o…

>setting up the perfect dev environment takes so long

It is a Not Unreasonable (TM) time investment to automate setting up your dev environment in the way you would a prod environment. emacs.d and other dotfiles in source control, masterless Puppet or Chef on your laptop, etc. If you're willing to go as far as installing Vagrant manually, the rest can be made pretty easy.

Of course, this works too.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by sorenjan »

Does anybody else think that Microsoft might build a similar web based Visual Studio soon? They already have their Visual Studio Code that's built with web tech, and a bunch of web based Office apps. Combine that with Azure and they basically have the best position in the market if they so choose. I'd probably still prefer the native VS though.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by sytse »

tedmiston wrote: post #225
sytse wrote: post #200

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Thanks, good to hear you like it. But this is quite an involved project. So we want to do Automatic parallelization of tests first https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/3819 And it will need a client integrations and a way to make this 'hidden' repository and/or commit.

I agree this is very / more valuable, for my use case at least. The discussion around creating the build file is interesting. In Django for instance, it would be straightforward to automate generating the list of apps to test: { "name": "my django project", "tasks": [ "python manage.py test myapp1", "python manage.py test myapp2", "python manage.py test myapp3", ], "labels":"..." } Those app names can be pulled from…

That would be nice! For now we're offering static .gitlab-ci.yml templates for many languages in the interface itself so you can easily start. Making plugins is a larger undertaking.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by [deleted] »

maxaf wrote: post #7
petercooper wrote: post #3

Once fully integrated with AWS, this could offer a rather exciting, low friction way to work on the platform. Using Cloud9 to build, test, and deploy Lambda functions from a single interface with all the auth stuff dealt with automatically.. you could have some powerful APIs running in the cloud very quickly. (Maybe there's even a play for getting this stuff into the hands of non-engineering employees. Build the "Exc…

The last thing this world needs is mission-critical software edited willy-nilly through a "convenient" web browser interface. We as an industry can barely put our pants on in the morning on the best of days, and now this.

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Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by sytse »

runeks wrote: post #222
sytse wrote: post #159

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This is a great idea. It makes much more sense to run your tests in the cloud than on your local machine. I don't think it can be done 'as-you-type' due to resource constraints. But I do think it can be done pre-commit. As a programmer I'm waiting for my tests to finish for hours per day, leading to a lot of inefficient multitasking and distractions. Obligatory adapted XKCD http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/381622/…

> I don't think it can be done 'as-you-type' due to resource constraints. But I do think it can be done pre-commit. When you rent a Google Compute Engine machine, it doesn't matter how much you use the CPU, the monthly cost is the same (roughly $30/vCPU/month). So you incur no additional cost by restarting tests after each input character. And if we can spread multiple users' tests out over multiple machine instances…

If you restart the tests it indeed doesn't matters less. Currently GitLab doesn't allow for an easy cancel and rerun I think. Also keep in mind that that testing can keep over 30 CPU's busy for 5 minutes. I think it makes more sense to start that when a human indicates it. But we can also consider 'restart as you type' and 'restart when you save'. Thanks for your suggestion.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by mhartl »

mhartl wrote: post #171
hyperdeficit wrote: post #18

I really hope that the Cloud9 service keeps running, and maintains the free version that it currently provides. I have been using Cloud9 with the Michael Hartl Rails Tutorial to teach new programmers the basics of programming with Ruby and Rails and it has greatly reduced the friction for them to start learning. In previous classes we had the students setup a Ruby and Rails environment on their own systems and not on…

Cloud9 has been a great partner to the Rails Tutorial, with their custom Rails Tutorial workspace allowing readers to spin up quickly at the beginning, while also maintaining state if they need to take a break. It's also enormously less overhead that downloading and installing a virtual machine. There's no telling what this acquisition will bring, of course, but it's a good fit for AWS, so I'm optimistic that the ser…

Argh. Too late to edit, but: that downloading -> than downloading

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by vincnetas »

krisdol wrote: post #182
SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #166

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>Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Developers with tech jobs should also be able to afford high end machines. It's totally worth it, if your employer will allow you to work on your personal machine at all.

Those tech companies should also provide high end machines to developers. I'm glad the last two places I've worked provided high end MacBook pros but also allow devs to use their own machines so inevitably there are a couple of Linux and Windows folks. Interesting that for me it was the startups that provided good machines while the enterprises provided 4 years old lenovo laptops with not so good batteries not the sp…

Just got back from paternaty leave and got new MacBook pro. Not sure if got lucky or this will be common practice. I'm from the IBM corporation. So one should not generalize ;) P.S. I guess only people who get crappy HW complain and this creates the ilussion that all corporations give crappy HW.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by saaadhu »

e12e wrote: post #231
benologist wrote: post #132

C9 is my favorite web IDE. Being open source made it so much better than their competitors because you could install it locally to take advantage of your own hardware. It's really cool that they got acquired vs the fleet of mostly proprietary alternatives.

I tried looking at the github project - can you self-host it in the sense that you could set it up on a server in your home, and use it without needing access to the Internet? I suppose it might be more clear if I install and run the "core" - but there was no mention of docker or vm support, nor root access?

Yes - I've run it locally. No docker/vm support was there though - I ended up running it the whole thing inside a docker container.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by discodave »

hueving wrote: post #13
0xmohit wrote: post #11

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C9 only adds to existing AWS offerings. Don't see a reason that it'd be shut down.

If it's basically an acquihire then that's exactly what happens. Remember sparrow?

Remember Twitch, IMDB, Zappos... Amazon doesn't have a history of aqui-hires. Sure, they are getting some talent but since there's no obvious AWS competitor to C9 they would be crazy to shut it down.
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