Do we really use the term "darknet"? I thought it was a layman's term and frowned upon.
Shedding light on the dark web
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Re: Shedding light on the dark web
#62Any time I read anything about the illegal drug trade I am struck by how much the industry would change if all drugs were legalized everywhere. So much effort is expended to keep things hidden from law enforcement and other criminals that it adds an incredible amount of friction to the purchasing process for the purchaser and the seller. From the buyer's perspective you now have to go into business with some often un…
Any time I read anything about legalizing all drugs I am struck by how that opinion would change if they tried to function with a heroin addiction.
A surprisingly large amount of arguments against drugs are circular:
Addiction is bad -> make it illegal -> look at all the legal trouble addiction causes -> Addiction is bad.
And most of them get even sillier if you replace the drug being demonized with the word alcohol.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any time I read anything about legalizing all drugs I am struck by how that opinion would change if they tried to function with a heroin addiction.
How is it any different than trying to function with an alcohol addiction? Are you suggesting that we should ban the booze too? A surprisingly large amount of arguments against drugs are circular: Addiction is bad -> make it illegal -> look at all the legal trouble addiction causes -> Addiction is bad. And most of them get even sillier if you replace the drug being demonized with the word alcohol.
pretty different! Both the addiction, how easy it is to get addicted.
I've got a challenge for you, start using heroin, then decide to stop, like a casual drinker. Report back your experience!
Re: Shedding light on the dark web
#64Any time I read anything about the illegal drug trade I am struck by how much the industry would change if all drugs were legalized everywhere. So much effort is expended to keep things hidden from law enforcement and other criminals that it adds an incredible amount of friction to the purchasing process for the purchaser and the seller. From the buyer's perspective you now have to go into business with some often un…
Any time I read anything about legalizing all drugs I am struck by how that opinion would change if they tried to function with a heroin addiction.
While it feels like the easy way out, do not confuse drug legalization as supporting the abuse of hard drugs.
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#65Any time I read anything about the illegal drug trade I am struck by how much the industry would change if all drugs were legalized everywhere. So much effort is expended to keep things hidden from law enforcement and other criminals that it adds an incredible amount of friction to the purchasing process for the purchaser and the seller. From the buyer's perspective you now have to go into business with some often un…
Any time I read anything about legalizing all drugs I am struck by how that opinion would change if they tried to function with a heroin addiction.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it hard to believe that there's some sort of conspiracy to keep police, lawyers, and prisons funded via laws against selling drugs. Have you considered that these laws are still in place simply because it's the status quo? Politicians voting on laws and drafting new ones must ultimately answer to their constituents. While the vast majority of things fly under the radar, "pro-drug" support is enough of a charge…
It's not a smoky room conspiracy. A quick google search turned up many articles about private prison companies funding lobbying[1], and I expect you will find similar results if you search for police union donations. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/28/...
Again, I'm not necessarily supporting this point of view, I'm only trying to be reasonable.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any time I read anything about legalizing all drugs I am struck by how that opinion would change if they tried to function with a heroin addiction.
Typically, advocates of universal legalization want to increase spending on rehabilitation, etc., so addicts would actually be able to seek and receive treatment instead of hiding their problems.
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#68Any time I read anything about the illegal drug trade I am struck by how much the industry would change if all drugs were legalized everywhere. So much effort is expended to keep things hidden from law enforcement and other criminals that it adds an incredible amount of friction to the purchasing process for the purchaser and the seller. From the buyer's perspective you now have to go into business with some often un…
The Drug War approach is built on a few axioms:
- people who take drugs would not do so if drugs are unavailable
- making something illegal prevents it from happening
- people who take drugs are somehow less moral or weaker or "bad" and deserve to be persecuted
All of these have been disproven.
Addiction is going through the roof, drugs are available (at a high cost and unpredictable quality), the jails are full and we are building more jails.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's really a shitty experience for everyone involved. However, it creates many thousands of very well paid jobs for police, lawyers, prison employees, etc. - you know, the people that create the laws. Long ago I might have considered that there might be some justification for these laws (or anywhere there's rules really), but nowadays when you wonder why "the way something is" is, it's easier to just assume someon…
I find it hard to believe that there's some sort of conspiracy to keep police, lawyers, and prisons funded via laws against selling drugs. Have you considered that these laws are still in place simply because it's the status quo? Politicians voting on laws and drafting new ones must ultimately answer to their constituents. While the vast majority of things fly under the radar, "pro-drug" support is enough of a charge…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/25/suppo...
The original banning of marijuana is ridiculous and riddled with racism and xenophobia:
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/02/the_real_reason_marijuana_is...
This is just marijuana. Drug legality and policy is mired in racism and money politics. It is just as conspiracy-theory as it sounds.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it hard to believe that there's some sort of conspiracy to keep police, lawyers, and prisons funded via laws against selling drugs. Have you considered that these laws are still in place simply because it's the status quo? Politicians voting on laws and drafting new ones must ultimately answer to their constituents. While the vast majority of things fly under the radar, "pro-drug" support is enough of a charge…
It's not a smoky room conspiracy. A quick google search turned up many articles about private prison companies funding lobbying[1], and I expect you will find similar results if you search for police union donations. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/28/...
That article you link claims the two biggest offenders have spent $35 million between 1989 and 2015. Google spent $10m in 6 months last year - http://www.wired.com/2015/07/google-facebook-amazon-lobbying....
You can't infer much other than it's not free to promote your ideas to your government.