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Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by duskwuff »

spdionis wrote: post #108
mevile wrote: post #85

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I don't understand e-sports teams. They're not representative of a geographical region and a "team" can actually have players on multiple games. It's like if the New York Yankees were just the Yankees and also played football, soccer and basketball. I don't understand the convention for how spectators are intended to root for a team. I get that this thing in regular sports for rooting for the team closes to you is ar…

Usually root for specific players/their teams and don't really pay much attention to the team name/provenience. Remember that most teams are named after their sponsor. A sponsor is not related to any city/esport. It's just a sponsor.

> Remember that most teams are named after their sponsor. A sponsor is not related to any city/esport. It's just a sponsor.

It's a bit more complicated than that, actually. Most of the large esports organizations (examples: Evil Geniuses, Cloud 9, Fnatic, Team Liquid) have an identity that's separate from both their sponsors and their teams. Teams that represent a single sponsor are pretty rare -- I've seen a few, but they're not common.

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Post by krisdol »

SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #166
bphogan wrote: post #162

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People forget the bit about poor performing machines. Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Many students do not, especially at public open-enrollment places. They come with whatever they have, despite recommendations from the program they enter.

>Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Developers with tech jobs should also be able to afford high end machines. It's totally worth it, if your employer will allow you to work on your personal machine at all.

Those tech companies should also provide high end machines to developers. I'm glad the last two places I've worked provided high end MacBook pros but also allow devs to use their own machines so inevitably there are a couple of Linux and Windows folks.

Interesting that for me it was the startups that provided good machines while the enterprises provided 4 years old lenovo laptops with not so good batteries not the specs needed to use a VM effectively

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by 8note »

mrmch wrote: post #130

For running a developer event like BattleSnake.io, C9 is amazing. After a few years of headaches trying to help students get their local dev environments setup, we started recommending Cloud9 to all Students. Definitely the way of the future.

battlesnakes was soo fun this year!

though part of my team spent most of the time in the food lines, which was a bit of a setback:P

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by atoko »

amelius wrote: post #68
y4mi wrote: post #49

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well, i just tried it. amazon aws is a hassle to setup. especially figuring out how to qualify for the free tier. its not just a "gimme free access already". cloud9 on the other hand took me about 3 minutes to create an account, django workspace and to start developing with it. that is a massive difference.

Ok, then perhaps Amazon or Cloud9 should have fixed this . It should not be too difficult, as it probably requires just some batch scripting. But I see no justification for creating a complete development platform in the cloud.

Maybe you are not in the intended audience then

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Post by cperciva »

hyperdeficit wrote: post #18

I really hope that the Cloud9 service keeps running, and maintains the free version that it currently provides. I have been using Cloud9 with the Michael Hartl Rails Tutorial to teach new programmers the basics of programming with Ruby and Rails and it has greatly reduced the friction for them to start learning. In previous classes we had the students setup a Ruby and Rails environment on their own systems and not on…

the free version

EC2's t2.nano, at 0.6 cents per hour, is incredibly close to free. (And that's not even counting the 12 month 'free tier'.)

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by tedmiston »

hyperdeficit wrote: post #168
bphogan wrote: post #162

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People forget the bit about poor performing machines. Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Many students do not, especially at public open-enrollment places. They come with whatever they have, despite recommendations from the program they enter.

This is also a reason that Cloud9 makes sense for us. The group I work with is focused on teaching programming to people who aren't traditionally represented in software development and sometimes they don't even have their own computers and have had to borrow a computer from a friend to do the work. With Cloud9 they can develop on any computer they have access to, whether their's, a friend's, or even one at the publi…

^ This is a great point.

I've run into the use case while traveling abroad where I don't have a computer (out of paranoia / lack of security).

Internet cafés are everywhere but setting up the perfect dev environment takes so long... so far it's made development fairly impractical, especially because they're often very old Windows machines. I've had good experiences with C9 so far, though I'd like to see how it pans out under that use case.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by rjurney »

I started using Cloud9 a few weeks ago, and my productivity running an interactive visualization app has gone way up. Cloud9 has the best autocomplete ever, and it 'just works' after you do a little environment setup in your included ubuntu instance. Any concerns I had were not a problem, like every day or two the cloud9 window crashes, but when it reopens the cursor is in the exact same place and all state is maintained. I don't even get that locally across reboots!

If this service doesn't keep running I will chain myself naked to the front doors of amazon's offices and won't let anyone in until they agree to bring back cloud9. It would seem to have big potential with the rest of amazon's services.

My stack (if you're curious): JRuby / Sinatra, d3.js. Keeps it lean.

Oh, my one gripe! I keep the IDE window full size, so whenever I switch applications and tab back to Chrome... my full sized window is gone. I have to select window -> my tab, and this SUCKS. IT SUCKS. I wish this were wrapped in a little 'chrome as an app' application.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by tedmiston »

Rezo wrote: post #52

Developers are quite conservative of their environment, but a cloud IDE could be awesome. I want to write code on a 2 lb MacBook, with continuous build-as-you-type in the cloud on a fleet of Xeons that have larger CPU caches than my entire project. Have 5, 50, 500 tests that need to run? Run them all in parallel continuously and get immediate red/green feedback in your IDE. Behind the scenes Lambda takes horizontal s…

Side note: I have really wanted to get this _exact_ testing setup with aggressive parallelism running on a large Django app.

Lambda would be cool, but really any way to spin up several machines near instantly and for just a few minutes without paying for full hours would suffice. GitLab CI has helped lots.

If you're seriously pursuing it at all, we should talk more.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by tedmiston »

Rezo wrote: post #52

Developers are quite conservative of their environment, but a cloud IDE could be awesome. I want to write code on a 2 lb MacBook, with continuous build-as-you-type in the cloud on a fleet of Xeons that have larger CPU caches than my entire project. Have 5, 50, 500 tests that need to run? Run them all in parallel continuously and get immediate red/green feedback in your IDE. Behind the scenes Lambda takes horizontal s…

Another thing I've always wanted is when working on two feature branches, or a feature branch and separately a hotfix branch -- to leave my open files in the IDE, virtual environment, git untouched and have both co-exist.

Sublime doesn't handle this too well today.

Sure I can setup all of this manually a second time, but it takes too long to be practical.

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