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Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Please see Alcohol Prohibition in the United States (at least back then they amended the US Constitution to do it legally).

From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. The main reason it failed as policy is chemistry. You can make ethanol from anything—even a cactus, as Mexico has taught us.

(citation required, also addressing parent's points would be helpful.)

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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They could build a Physical Onion Router. Send package to a node, which opens it to find a smaller package already addressed to another location. Similar to TOR each hop will increase security at the expense of resource utilization.

Doesn't that leave a huge paper trail?

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Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Any time I read anything about the illegal drug trade I am struck by how much the industry would change if all drugs were legalized everywhere. So much effort is expended to keep things hidden from law enforcement and other criminals that it adds an incredible amount of friction to the purchasing process for the purchaser and the seller. From the buyer's perspective you now have to go into business with some often un…

Yes it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

The answer none of the people who are for the criminalization is why should a victimless action be considered a crime.

Why should otherwise law abiding citizens be criminalized for something as innocent as smoking weed. Even harder drugs would be much easier and economically better, dealt with if it was legalized.

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please see Alcohol Prohibition in the United States (at least back then they amended the US Constitution to do it legally).

From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. The main reason it failed as policy is chemistry. You can make ethanol from anything—even a cactus, as Mexico has taught us.

Today you can do almost anything easily.

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Couldn't reverse tracing work? A fed poses as a customer, and uses a PO Box to receive goods, but also registers this in the Fedex, USPS, UPS databases, such that if this address appears anywhere on a package, it is traced to determine the origin. Build a network over time, repeat.

The FBI cannot legally trace USPS mail without a warrant, but can with Fedex, UPS, et. al. Almost all US darknet shipments go through USPS for this reason.

The USPS images every address they deliver now and logs for law enforcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_Isolation_Control_and_Tra...

I flatly do not believe the claims that the images are not retained long term.

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. The main reason it failed as policy is chemistry. You can make ethanol from anything—even a cactus, as Mexico has taught us.

(citation required, also addressing parent's points would be helpful.)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470475/

See also the very entertaining book by Daniel Okrent.

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Demand for recreational drugs is ever present, it seems, and it looks like the prohibitionists are losing 'the war on drugs.' I hesitate to recommend sweeping legalization, but surely it must be time to rethink drugs policy. I suppose it is happening, slowly, with medical and recreational marijuana legalization, but other drugs must be considered as well.

I don't use drugs or alcohol anymore because I couldn't control my use of opioids. I have had a very difficult time in the past 10 years because of this, and every rehab/behavioral health treatment I found myself in recommended 12 step support groups as a one size fits all solution to my substance abuse issues. It wasn't until I got into a methadone program that I was able to find some relief from my addiction and frequent relapses. Unfortunately, methadone is frowned upon as much NA/AA is favored by addiction counselors.

Anyway, I've rambled on long enough. The point is that I think addiction is the real problem we face when it comes to drugs. And two potentially addictive drugs are currently legal. I think that if enough money was allocated for medical addiction treatment, legalization could work. A lot of money could be made by regulating and taxing recreational drugs. Addicts could be kept out of jail and receive the help they need instead of falling into the trap of the criminal justice system.

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. The main reason it failed as policy is chemistry. You can make ethanol from anything—even a cactus, as Mexico has taught us.

From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. I don't know about that, didn't lead poisoning go way up?

And methanol poisoning. Not to mention other nasty things that were intentionally added to industrial alcohol to poison anyone who tried to drink it [1] - now, it would be interesting to try and get a sense for how many drunk drivers were kept off the roads during Prohibition, but I doubt most would consider it an unalloyed success, even then.

1: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/8/5975605/alcohol-prohibition-pois...

Re: Shedding light on the dark web

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Please see Alcohol Prohibition in the United States (at least back then they amended the US Constitution to do it legally).

From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success. The main reason it failed as policy is chemistry. You can make ethanol from anything—even a cactus, as Mexico has taught us.

> From a public health perspective, Prohibition was a success.

Do you count skyrocketing murder rate and gov't-poisoned hooch in your metric for success?

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