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What, you've never sshed into a remote machine?
i think this thread is separating the beginners from the veterans.
I think what the GP was talking about is more like RDP for a development environment.
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Wouldn't virtual machine basically do the same thing? I've taken some classes where teacher gave us an image where everything was already installed and configured. Everything went smoothly. However, Cloud9 is much more convenient since it runs entirely on browser but VM solution could work in case C9 discontinues its free tier.
>I've taken some classes where teacher gave us an image where everything was already installed and configured. My department tries this occasionally. It fails because students either have a) cheap pieces of shit with unreasonably poor performance under virtualization (I'm talking multiple seconds to bring a different window to foreground under Ubuntu) b) Retina MBPs, on which Linux has absolute garbage text rendering…
People forget the bit about poor performing machines. Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Many students do not, especially at public open-enrollment places. They come with whatever they have, despite recommendations from the program they enter.
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I fail to see how it's advantageous over just having a shell account somewhere free like SDF though. Do young developers just want to interact with everything through the browser?
Failing to understand that different people have different preferences isn't a terribly interesting stance to take in public. These sort of sentiments are better worded as a search for knowledge, instead of this sneer.
You are the one sneering. "Failing to understand" is a completely respectful stance. It places the lack of understanding on the person saying it. It leaves open the possibility that the person saying it is wrong. It's skeptical but not without a degree of humility.
This is opposed to a straight up judgement, like what you have just done.
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#164That makes me smiling over memories of running X client in 1997 over ssh to X server on some uni host.
That was remote VM, some of the younger ones think are invented 20 years later ;)
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#165I've used Nitrous and Cloud9 both quite a bit... I tend to prefer C9 for Web Dev and Nitrous for full stack Ruby dev.
Nice to see these products taking off from a pure cost perspective, I can buy a chromebook and do development as long as I have an internet connection.
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>I've taken some classes where teacher gave us an image where everything was already installed and configured. My department tries this occasionally. It fails because students either have a) cheap pieces of shit with unreasonably poor performance under virtualization (I'm talking multiple seconds to bring a different window to foreground under Ubuntu) b) Retina MBPs, on which Linux has absolute garbage text rendering…
People forget the bit about poor performing machines. Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Many students do not, especially at public open-enrollment places. They come with whatever they have, despite recommendations from the program they enter.
>Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them.
Developers with tech jobs should also be able to afford high end machines.
It's totally worth it, if your employer will allow you to work on your personal machine at all.
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#167I've always been intrigued by Cloud9 and its ilk but can't figure out what is the best thing to do on it.
What are some great use cases for this type of tool? Is it mainly for quick testing or temporary stuff? Or would you use it for something longer term? Indie developer or team?
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>I've taken some classes where teacher gave us an image where everything was already installed and configured. My department tries this occasionally. It fails because students either have a) cheap pieces of shit with unreasonably poor performance under virtualization (I'm talking multiple seconds to bring a different window to foreground under Ubuntu) b) Retina MBPs, on which Linux has absolute garbage text rendering…
People forget the bit about poor performing machines. Developers with tech jobs often have high end machines provided to them. Many students do not, especially at public open-enrollment places. They come with whatever they have, despite recommendations from the program they enter.
This is also a reason that Cloud9 makes sense for us. The group I work with is focused on teaching programming to people who aren't traditionally represented in software development and sometimes they don't even have their own computers and have had to borrow a computer from a friend to do the work.
With Cloud9 they can develop on any computer they have access to, whether their's, a friend's, or even one at the public library. It is just one less barrier to being able to engage people.
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#169I really hope that the Cloud9 service keeps running, and maintains the free version that it currently provides. I have been using Cloud9 with the Michael Hartl Rails Tutorial to teach new programmers the basics of programming with Ruby and Rails and it has greatly reduced the friction for them to start learning. In previous classes we had the students setup a Ruby and Rails environment on their own systems and not on…
If they don't check out https://www.nitrous.io/ - Similar to Cloud9 and was huge for me when I started learning.
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#170Are there any new alternatives to c9? I used codebox before they shut it down, and really liked it. I like the flexibility of having a full-blown Ubuntu system to use as I develop, but the browser overhead of the editors for these things almost makes it not worth it. C9 was decent, but not at all ideal. I'd love to see a simple, bare-bones "just type text" editor, paired with a bare-bones VPS that I could tinker with as I like.