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Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by RileyCR »

hyperdeficit wrote: post #18

I really hope that the Cloud9 service keeps running, and maintains the free version that it currently provides. I have been using Cloud9 with the Michael Hartl Rails Tutorial to teach new programmers the basics of programming with Ruby and Rails and it has greatly reduced the friction for them to start learning. In previous classes we had the students setup a Ruby and Rails environment on their own systems and not on…

Sure it's "FREE" - becasue every time you use it, you will be consuming compute from your AWS account. That is my thought. AWS would not do this if it did not make them money. It is not just to be cool.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by beachstartup »

sbierwagen wrote: post #135
fragsworth wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of these days we'll have fast enough Internet speeds in the U.S. that remote VMs will work (nicely). We're definitely not there yet.

What, you've never sshed into a remote machine?

i think this thread is separating the beginners from the veterans.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by beachstartup »

zeveb wrote: post #74
Rezo wrote: post #52

Developers are quite conservative of their environment, but a cloud IDE could be awesome. I want to write code on a 2 lb MacBook, with continuous build-as-you-type in the cloud on a fleet of Xeons that have larger CPU caches than my entire project. Have 5, 50, 500 tests that need to run? Run them all in parallel continuously and get immediate red/green feedback in your IDE. Behind the scenes Lambda takes horizontal s…

> I want to write code on a 2 lb MacBook, with continuous build-as-you-type in the cloud on a fleet of Xeons that have larger CPU caches than my entire project. Your editor doesn't need to run remotely in order to do this; it just needs to be able to run things remotely in order to do it. > I want my editor, exactly as I left it, down to the open tabs and cursor position, on any machine. You could build this from syn…

let's also not forget that constantly building stuff on xeon cores costs a lot of money.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by 0942v8653 »

Karunamon wrote: post #110
piffey wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see how it's advantageous over just having a shell account somewhere free like SDF though. Do young developers just want to interact with everything through the browser?

Everywhere that provides internet access will give you a browser, where they may not give you a proper SSH program (or worse, they'll block everything but 80/443 outbound). This happens with a lot of cyber cafes, free wifi hotspots, and so on.

> (or worse, they'll block everything but 80/443 outbound)

Or worse, they'll do deep packet inspection to make sure you are not using SSH. My high school did this, and I ended up stuck with Cloud9 instead of using my real server at home. Glad to be out of there.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by solipsism »

fogleman wrote: post #116
zeveb wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're telling me rsync already does everything that I want to do, when I'm trying to describe Dropbox. Alternatively, you're trying to say that a McDonald's Happy Meal™ is great food, when I'm serving salt-crusted ribeye, served with fresh English peas, roasted sweet corn and garlic mashed potatoes with cream.

But you're not serving it, you're just selling the ingredients.

Good quality ingredients is the most important part, some chefs would say. You're right, but all you'd have to do is build an opinionated "skin" over Emacs, bringing together and properly configuring existing plugins, writing some new ones, and packaging it nicely.

I recently started using Spacemacs[1], and I'm basically sold on Emacs as an IDE-building toolkit. And I say that as a decades-long Vim user (I still use Vim, just as key bindings within Spacemacs).

[1] http://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by oldmanjay »

fragsworth wrote: post #66
jozan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't virtual machine basically do the same thing? I've taken some classes where teacher gave us an image where everything was already installed and configured. Everything went smoothly. However, Cloud9 is much more convenient since it runs entirely on browser but VM solution could work in case C9 discontinues its free tier.

One of these days we'll have fast enough Internet speeds in the U.S. that remote VMs will work (nicely). We're definitely not there yet.

Guess that's all a matter of where in the US you are. It's a big country.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by oldmanjay »

piffey wrote: post #105
pibefision wrote: post #84

I've discovered C9 while viewing coders working via Livecoding.tv. It's highly interesting how very young developers are using C9, naturally, to code. Something great is happening behind this behavior, it's much more than an online IDE. It feels friction less to develop a website totally online for this kind of developers. Also, for example, I can think many people using PC's on cybercafes prefering C9 to develop. I…

I fail to see how it's advantageous over just having a shell account somewhere free like SDF though. Do young developers just want to interact with everything through the browser?

Failing to understand that different people have different preferences isn't a terribly interesting stance to take in public. These sort of sentiments are better worded as a search for knowledge, instead of this sneer.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by jamra »

Rezo wrote: post #52

Developers are quite conservative of their environment, but a cloud IDE could be awesome. I want to write code on a 2 lb MacBook, with continuous build-as-you-type in the cloud on a fleet of Xeons that have larger CPU caches than my entire project. Have 5, 50, 500 tests that need to run? Run them all in parallel continuously and get immediate red/green feedback in your IDE. Behind the scenes Lambda takes horizontal s…

It's funny that you use the 2 lb Macbook as an example. Mine has a terrible problem with its wifi, requiring me to restart it every minute or so. It's unusable with Cloud9's IDE.

Furthermore, their IDE is extremely slow and vim mode is broken. Other than that, I share your ambition and hope that one day some other company will solve this. Perhaps Microsoft will be the first. Visual Studio Code has as a nice web-based editor.

Re: Cloud9 Acquired by Amazon

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Post by Veratyr »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #28

Seems like a smart move by Amazon if they integrate cloud9 as a standard service. I liked Google's web based IDE when I was a contractor there and for about a year I experimented with using nitrous.io. Right now I am experimenting with using codeanywhere pointed at my own large server instance. It is tremendously convenient having one development environment set up that can be accessed from all of my devices. Hopeful…

Not entirely relevant but Google also has a public IDE of sorts:

- https://cloud.google.com/source-repositories/docs/using-sour...

- https://cloud.google.com/shell/docs/features

Personally I think it's really nice.

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