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The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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I have the $200 old regular indoor Nest camera. It's so horrible, in more ways than I would have imagined that a camera could possibly suck, that it's completely redefined my understanding of awful. It's caused me to rethink many other purchases way outside of the category, from blenders to TVs to cars. Absolutely don't ever buy a Nest product, unless your aim is to do experimental anitmaterialism therapy.

To give a counter perspective: I have two of the old dropcams before Nest took over and released the Nestcam. The old dropcams are basically the same as the new nestcams except they lack the improved IR. They work flawlessly with Nest's new mobile apps (I have iPad and Samsung Galaxy Note 5.) Also the new web app works great as well. The web app is designed to scale on any screen, and looks a bit like it uses mobile UI, but it works fine so I don't think it's an issue. The only thing I've seen change, is that the old dropcam allowed sharing of cameras, via an invite list. Whereas now, with Nest, you have to either do fully public via a url, or totally private. Nest also enabled full 1080 whereas Dropcam had only 720 except when zooming in on a specific area, with "auto-enhance." (This made the camera only record a smaller FOV which sucked.) So they have made improvement, if only one.

There is also Nest Aware which can let you enable alerts/emails that you get when activity/motion/sound happens when you are gone (it will use your phone or other devices to detect when you leave.) You can also disable the cameras when you are home, if you are one of those paranoid people.

I am not paid or affiliated with Nest at all. I just have two cameras that I use mainly to watch my two cats. They have been great for my use. I have gigabit internet. I have not had any issues.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Magnetic mount only? Access trough cloud service? $200? Seems like something that should be marketed in TV Shop shows. Anyway I highly recommend https://zoneminder.com/ even old laptop with built in camera can be decent playground for it then buy some cheap Chinese IP cameras with WiFi and make separate VLAN for them on router cut off from internet access (some of those cameras are doing home ping back or even sendin…

I don't think the Nest cameras (or others like them) are marketed at the same people who want* to set up their own VLANs, install software onto old laptops, and find a bespoke way to monitor the whole thing remotely.

* Want meaning 'not just technically capable, but who want to expend the time to set up & maintain this'

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Can anyone explain the value of a magnetic mount when the power cable has to be screwed down? It's not like you need to be able to quickly detach and move the camera, and it could still look nice and sufficiently "Nest-y" with a mechanical base. Am I missing something?

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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> The magnetic base attachment potentially makes the Nest Cam Outdoor very easy to steal, but Nest claims the screwed-in, permanently attached power cord will prevent people from walking away with your $200 camera. Nooooooope.

Doesn't even need to be stolen.

If the camera can be knocked off the base and left hanging in a position that can't see anything, then the camera is useless.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Save yourself $50 and the monthly subscription fee. Recording software runs on any networked machine, and there's no cloud dependency. https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-g3/ (Not affiliated)

they use resellers, is it available to order online somewhere?

You can order most of their products through Amazon Prime.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Can anyone explain the value of a magnetic mount when the power cable has to be screwed down? It's not like you need to be able to quickly detach and move the camera, and it could still look nice and sufficiently "Nest-y" with a mechanical base. Am I missing something?

Well, it will be waaaaay easier to steal.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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post #25

Save yourself $50 and the monthly subscription fee. Recording software runs on any networked machine, and there's no cloud dependency. https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-g3/ (Not affiliated)

they use resellers, is it available to order online somewhere?

easy to miss but they have a direct buy option for USA customers https://store.ubnt.com/

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

they use resellers, is it available to order online somewhere?

You can order most of their products through Amazon Prime.

that is ideal! I guess their reseller's would not appreciate having that link listed along side their names. I understand the reseller model but it seems an ancient practice.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Would've been nice if they'd made a battery-powered one. I've a couple of Netgear Arlo cameras and am a big fan. They're wireless and battery powered and I was pretty dubious about the claimed battery life. However I've now had them for four months and they're still showing as 3/4 full. https://www.arlo.com/
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