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The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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> The magnetic base attachment potentially makes the Nest Cam Outdoor very easy to steal, but Nest claims the screwed-in, permanently attached power cord will prevent people from walking away with your $200 camera. Nooooooope.

Yeah that seems the most dubious claim, that a power cord will protect the device, really?

stating that the fact the thief will be on video is IMO a stronger deterrent if there's one at all.

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A broader question I've had as I've been looking into these is: are there any low-cost alternative is that do NOT involve the cloud? I really don't want to send video from inside and outside my home across the Internet. I don't mind that I can't check it remotely. I'm more interested in giving my wife the ability to see what's outside without spending an arm and a leg or letting it go out onto the Internet.

I've cobbled together a solution involving D-Link cameras and a fork of motion[0], plus some scripts to move files around, that works really well for me. Remote access is handled by running a VPN server, but that's a general infrastructure thing, not anything specific to the cameras.

The D-Link cameras, at least the ones I use, all have a cloud service available, but they work just fine if you put them on a separate network that isn't able to access the internet. They all present what they see as an MJPEG stream that motion can consume, plus they have a built in web server to do the configuration.

[0] https://github.com/Mr-Dave/motion

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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A broader question I've had as I've been looking into these is: are there any low-cost alternative is that do NOT involve the cloud? I really don't want to send video from inside and outside my home across the Internet. I don't mind that I can't check it remotely. I'm more interested in giving my wife the ability to see what's outside without spending an arm and a leg or letting it go out onto the Internet.

Yes, there are other inexpensive options that are not cloud-based? As other users mentioned you could get a cheap ONVIF-compatible camera from Dahua or Hikvision for around $100. This can be paired with an inexpensive VMS. Check out http://www.ipconfigure.com/products/orchid - They provide a Free community edition of Orchid that runs on Raspberry Pi, or $69 per camera if you want to run on your own server/pc (Linux/Windows).

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Save yourself $50 and the monthly subscription fee. Recording software runs on any networked machine, and there's no cloud dependency. https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-g3/ (Not affiliated)

I like their wireless stuff. I've been looking at the ubiquiti cameras and NVR for a while but haven't pulled the trigger.

I use the UVC Micro to watch an indoor entryway. Video quality is satisfactory but nothing to write home about. Hardware design is nice. Considered the NVR but went with a small Linux VM instead.

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I used to be a big fan of Nest. I've owned the thermostat, protect, Dropcam Pro, and a Nest Cam. This product announcement leaves me very underwhelmed. Since Nest took stewardship of the Dropcam products, there has been a noticeable decline in quality. The Nest App is not as fully featured as the Dropcam one was previously, and I seem to be having more and more connectivity issues, despite having improved Internet co…

>Since Nest took stewardship of the Dropcam products, there has been a noticeable decline in quality.

Oh, there's a reason for that. Fadell's leadership was so horrible that a lot of the dropcam team ended up quitting after being acqui-hired.

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Save yourself $50 and the monthly subscription fee. Recording software runs on any networked machine, and there's no cloud dependency. https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-video/unifi-video-camera-g3/ (Not affiliated)

they use resellers, is it available to order online somewhere?

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

#39

A broader question I've had as I've been looking into these is: are there any low-cost alternative is that do NOT involve the cloud? I really don't want to send video from inside and outside my home across the Internet. I don't mind that I can't check it remotely. I'm more interested in giving my wife the ability to see what's outside without spending an arm and a leg or letting it go out onto the Internet.

I'm pretty happy with a Raspberry Pi running RPi-Cam-Web-Interface (plus a few custom scripts).

http://elinux.org/RPi-Cam-Web-Interface

Re: The Nest Cam Outdoor is a $199 camera with an easy-to-install magnetic base

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like their wireless stuff. I've been looking at the ubiquiti cameras and NVR for a while but haven't pulled the trigger.

I use the UVC Micro to watch an indoor entryway. Video quality is satisfactory but nothing to write home about. Hardware design is nice. Considered the NVR but went with a small Linux VM instead.

What camera would you recommend for use ourdoors (full hd)? What software did you use in your diy linux setup: zoneminder, xeoma, or something else?
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