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Actually, Slack really sucks

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Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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My main gripe with slack is the abuses. At my company its mostly a water cooler or a way to break the headphones contract.

As well people using @channel gets tiresome when you're on vacation and slack is on your phone.

Basically slack is noisy in my situation, i wonder if for many?

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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Torn on this one. I'm sympathetic because of how the OP complains that he's been pulled into Slack because of its popularity. I don't think being virally popular is a demerit -- sometimes popular things are popular because they are good -- but the trade off comes when bystanders are forced into the hivemind if they want to do things that previously didn't require that hot-app-du-jour. And I've only used Slack as a so…

Actually, maybe you should try Slack in earnest with a project team before assuming the OP criticisms are wacked. I tried it with my team about a year ago, and all of the OP criticisms resonate with me. We don't use Slack anymore.

What do you use? We are about to switch to Slack from Skype for messaging (that's all we use Skype for). Right now we are running both but I prefer Slack.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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I work remotely, and I use Slack to keep an open dialog with my team. I used HipChat before that. They both have their upsides for this use case, but I think that it's basically a great tool for what I'm doing. I can easily see how wide use of Slack at a large company could get overwhelming quickly, but that's not so much Slack's fault (HipChat would do the same thing) as much as a general probelm of communication.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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This is surprisingly common with any chat app. I'm sure Whatsapp users are familiar with groups (with family, friends or coworkers) where everyone just sits and blabs on and on and it becomes a nuisance (especially with large group sizes).

Also because chat is so informal, everyone posts needlessly (shoot from the hip with no consideration for whether you're wasting someones' time)

One solution is the judicious use of @ (in Hipchat at least). People should also consider chat to be informal mail rather than chat when you're in the office.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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My main gripe with slack is the abuses. At my company its mostly a water cooler or a way to break the headphones contract. As well people using @channel gets tiresome when you're on vacation and slack is on your phone. Basically slack is noisy in my situation, i wonder if for many?

I just set myself as "away" when I'm on vacation. @channel won't send you a notification when you're away, it'll by default only notify you when somebody directly messages or tags you.

If you're focusing on something you can put slack in "Do Not Disturb" mode for a desired amount of time.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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I've found that slack takes up way more time for me too.

I'm usually in 50 IRC channels at once. My workflow when I open irc is to check my hilight window for pings, and then glance at the channel list for backscroll chatter in channels I follow closely (if bored, also look at chatter in other channels). I then respond to things, and switch back to the hilight window. I occasionally glance at this window to check for more pings and chatter in said channels. Each check is a quick glance, and can be done without context-switching.

I am in a bunch of slack teams, but I only really care about one channel in each. It takes much longer to handle these, since I need to open a tab for each, and if I've been pinged go look for the ping.

IRC sucks, but at least everything is in one place. I'd be far more productive with slack if there was a unified app for all teams with a dedicated notifications panel.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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Shameless plug regarding Slack being distraction source: I am trying to scratch my own itch here so I'm working on a Slack app that should help with that, www.collabq.com. Would love to hear your opinions!

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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For me the first part that you agree with as well is the kicker. Slack has started eating the world, but the fact that it has only partially succeeded makes it feel way more painful. My gaming groups are on slack. Various (discontinuous) work groups are on slack. Various open source groups are on slack. But not _everything_; meaning either I have to have yet another desktop app (call me a curmudgeon but I really like…

I'm surprised your gaming groups are on Slack, given that Discord is basically a Slack clone that's geared specifically for gaming and seems to be really popular. Edit: Discourse -> Discord

I don't particularly like Discord (which I assume you meant) because I don't see a monetization plan for them that doesn't screw over their users. With Slack, I know that they have enterprise customers that essentially pay for the free users. Discord has nothing like that, and I can only foresee two outcomes: running out of money or selling out their users. Charging for their service won't really work, either, because gamers are a pretty price-sensitive group in my experience and Slack is still free.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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Slack's identity management is really painful.

Why do I need to create a new account for each slack team I want to join? I am the same person.

Joining a slack team should be an entitlement that gets granted to my identity -not an entirely separate account.

Re: Actually, Slack really sucks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the first part that you agree with as well is the kicker. Slack has started eating the world, but the fact that it has only partially succeeded makes it feel way more painful. My gaming groups are on slack. Various (discontinuous) work groups are on slack. Various open source groups are on slack. But not _everything_; meaning either I have to have yet another desktop app (call me a curmudgeon but I really like…

I'm surprised your gaming groups are on Slack, given that Discord is basically a Slack clone that's geared specifically for gaming and seems to be really popular. Edit: Discourse -> Discord

Wonderful case in point; one of my groups is on slack, whereas my serious raid group is on Discord (which I assume you meant :) ) and a third group is on TeamSpeak; up until recently Mumble was in the mix as well. It's really a portmanteau of silly apps to keep track of.
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