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So based on this, we should still hold Germany accountable for the holocaust...got it.
Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
#42Christ almighty, why not just use SAS at that point. Ross Ihaka was so disappointed by Revolution's value-subtracted offerings that he disowned the entire R project.
Isn't SAS better than R?
Jokes aside, it's not even close for actual modeling building. SAS has vertical integrations which make it worthwhile for corporations. Things like portfolio risk management, marketing optimization software, intranets, BI, etc., but R is unparalleled for model building.
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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I think he was under the impression that using the GPL (instead of a BSD license) would avoid commercial forks. Personally I don't care, Gentleman doesn't care, and the Revolution people (some at least) are pretty good guys. But leading with the above would be shitty click bait }:-)
They would avoid proprietary forks (not commercial, that's not the same thing) if they actually defended the damn GPL. Instead, they kept weakening it, kept trying to change the API from GPL to LGPL (and I think they actually did it) and encouraged non-free plugins on CRAN. The license will need to a better job of protecting work donated to the commons than GPL2 seems to have done. https://xianblog.wordpress.com/2010…
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
#44Christ almighty, why not just use SAS at that point. Ross Ihaka was so disappointed by Revolution's value-subtracted offerings that he disowned the entire R project.
They contribute source, packages, they ship an R distribution with IKML available on multiple platforms for free... what's value-subtracted here?
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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Isn't SAS better than R?
Sas isn't better than R, the two softwares just target different ideal use cases IMO. R is far more flexible, but interpreted and has some really annoying properties that make production work/reliability really hard. SAS is a quirky model of computation that limits it in some/many areas, but makes standard operations on rectangular data and data munging/etl on such a breeze. It's compiled. Macros are both a blessing…
R/S was really meant as "glue" for FORTRAN and C linear algebra libraries (ask Chambers if you don't believe me, and look at how glmnet works). The other stuff is just to get data into a form that can be fed to LAPACK & friends.
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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Isn't SAS better than R?
I used SAS in graduate school and I don't ever want to touch it again.
If anyone brings up the FDA... Just don't do that ok?
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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I think so, at least for my use, but I'm at a large company and I don't see the licensing costs (nor do they directly come out of my budget). It's not to say R is bad, it just takes (me) longer to do similar work. Of course, we're also a Teradata shop and being able to run R in-database is awfully tempting - but I doubt we'd save any money at that point (even if its not my budget, still have to justify it), and we'd…
What I can say is that SAS allows you to get quicker at visualisations and analysis without actually knowing what you are doing. R requires you to think before and ask the questions you would like to get from the data.
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
#48Microsoft was at the 2016 UseR conference, they're presentation 'How Microsoft uses R presentation' was a complete sales pitch.
Uhm... it is meant to be? Oracle and Teradata did the same thing. They paid for it.
Re: Introducing the free Microsoft R Client
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Uhm... it is meant to be? Oracle and Teradata did the same thing. They paid for it.
The session was supposed to be how they use it not how other companies can use it by paying for it