I believe the article headline should be "drug dealers" not "drug addicts".
Body count rises as Philippines president calls for drug addicts to be killed
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is a country democratic if it has local elections and at the same time segreggate their own and drone other nations - while removing democratically elected presidents ? I assume you're referring to America. And my answer would be that yes, as abhorrent as segregation, drone strikes and backing coups in other countries is, that doesn't nullify the elections held within that country. It's still a democracy.
So You're agreeing with me that this is bullshit and US is not a democracy? After all, Obama was elected to halt Wars and we are on the brink of WWIII. You vote but don't get what you elect. Now, if we add big money to the sum, I would say the American polítical regime is the worst in the world.
Do you think the American political regime is worse than Venezuela's? Vietnam? Thailand? Brazil? Libya? I think the majority of people would argue the list of superior systems is 90% shorter than the list of inferior.
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#243Re: Body count rises as Philippines president calls for drug addicts to be killed
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is a country democratic if it has local elections and at the same time segreggate their own and drone other nations - while removing democratically elected presidents ? I assume you're referring to America. And my answer would be that yes, as abhorrent as segregation, drone strikes and backing coups in other countries is, that doesn't nullify the elections held within that country. It's still a democracy.
So You're agreeing with me that this is bullshit and US is not a democracy? After all, Obama was elected to halt Wars and we are on the brink of WWIII. You vote but don't get what you elect. Now, if we add big money to the sum, I would say the American polítical regime is the worst in the world.
> I would say the American polítical regime is the worst in the world
But not for the people living there.
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure if the entire country was heavily armed and bullets were handed out like sweets the situation would calm right down very quickly. The US arms industry would be happy to provide them with a nice bulk discount.
We are talking about the Philippines. The guns do come from the US. The entire country is heavily armed -- compared to most countries -- especially Mindanao. Bullets are widely available. Some people would say this is exactly why the situation is not going to calm down and certainly not quickly.
I have several firearms (here in the US) that were made in the Philippines. I'm not so sure they're not a net arms exporter.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly history is not a morality play. In it immoral actions are often rewarded and idealists suffer shitty fates. I think that idiot is the wrong insult here (tyrant, cruel, despicable, scum and many others are all fine). But we live in a world in which Saudi Arabia is chair of the UN human rights council ... Laws, rights, constitutions - they mean a lot less when no force is capable or willing to enforce them.
> I think that idiot is the wrong insult here I think it is entirely appropriate for the ruler of a country who instead of attacking the root cause of corruption in that country decides to give license to his population to go and kill each other instead. > But we live in a world in which Saudi Arabia is chair of the UN human rights council ... Ugh. I had to go and look that up to make sure you weren't pulling my leg.…
He is idiot if he does not achieve his goals. If his goals are western democracy - then he is indeed an idiot.
If his goal is strong Philippines under El Presidente that conveniently shares the same name as him ... he is on the right way.
I know I am cynical as a person nearing the age of 350 but after the drug dealer "threat" is dealt with, the corrupted (and his opponents) may as well be his next extrajudical targets.
In every impoverished area there are some local feudal bigshots that do what they please and can get away with anything. Give the poor licence to kill them ... and they will elect you to your grave and beyond.
Democracy does not mean human rights or rule of law ...
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Police are too weak and too corrupt to deal with it Yes, so let's go kill a bunch of people, instead of reforming the police force.
So can we kill corrupt cops as well then? I mean if we are going to go full circle, lets just kill everyone we dont agree with. That will solve all our issues! /s
Of course, the people with guns will kill the people who doesn't have guns. Since drug dealers and drug users never have guns, it's easy.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once you go there, it's really hard to come back.
Could you explain this further? The president's comments are straight up scary and the police actions seem to way overstep human rights.
Once you start ignoring basic human rights, due process and the rule of law, it's pretty difficult to re-establish a functional society.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
So You're agreeing with me that this is bullshit and US is not a democracy? After all, Obama was elected to halt Wars and we are on the brink of WWIII. You vote but don't get what you elect. Now, if we add big money to the sum, I would say the American polítical regime is the worst in the world.
No, actually I said that the US is still a democracy. People voted for Obama and they got Obama. Obama may have said what he wanted to do in office back in 2008 and then not been able to achieve those things, but that doesn't make the US undemocratic. That's how representative democracy works - you vote for representatives, not policies.
Well Filipinos voted for this President who was very clear on his policues and they got him and he is doing what he promised. Democracy right though perhaps not to everyone's taste. What is then the objection?
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#250It's concerning that the reddit conversation seems more measured than HN on this issue (5 hour mark, 12:00 UTC) What up HN? Why does someone saying I live there get them upvotes without logical remarks?
Missing the link to said reasoning or said reasoning from you.
The top comment reflects the heart of the issue. Being logical about it, reasoning your will on others, etc. - won't change the world - that's unreasonable.